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| Author: | Kinder [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Black Smoke Donkey |
So it begins... I pulled my Bronco into the garage today, it entered as a gasser and will exit as a diesel. The major pieces are in my garage right now; frame extension pieces, 4BT, ZF5, 203 reduction box, 205 transfer case, doubler adapter is on order from Jed's Machining. The remainder of the major mods will reuse existing parts that I own, like the junk doors that needed too much work to go on Willem's Bronco. When I pull it out of the garage I'm hoping for a rig that will get 20+ mpg, go down the freeway at 70+ mph, enable my camper to fit inside the body (not use the tailgate as the floor) and it will likely have 4 doors (the rears will be 2/3 the size of an original door and open suicide style), but that may wait for stage 2. It may be rolling on 37s if my gearing calculator is right, that should enable me to cruise 75 mph at 1800 rpm. I expect a noise increase but I'm not going to straight pipe it or turn the IP up so high that I'm pushing 500 ft/lb of torque. I heard the engine run before I tore it out of the donor and it was one of the quietest 4BTs that I've heard. In addition to a heart and lung transplant it will also have a new to me body that I've had put aside, a '68 tub with no rust. One item that will be worked out as I go is the top. I've seen what others have done when they extend their Broncos so I'll use that as inspiration and build on that with some of my personal ideas. Finally I need to work out a new name, I've always called it the Dirty Donkey, so now what do I call it? |
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| Author: | JGZ [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
How much are you gonna streach the roof?I might have a idea. |
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| Author: | Kinder [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
Somewhere between 12 - 24 inches. |
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| Author: | akaFrankCastle [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
D3 (Dirty Diesel Donkey). I assume the current body will be used for donor chunks for the stretch? |
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| Author: | Kinder [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
| Author: | Colorado75bronc [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
Glad to see you've started, you'll surely beat me to getting mine done :( |
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| Author: | akaFrankCastle [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
| Author: | Kinder [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
Progress! I tell you what, after you show your son how to assemble a Bronco he has no problem disassembling one. |
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| Author: | Justin [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
That is going to be awesome. Driving the tdi around has me thinking again about a 4bt again as well. |
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| Author: | akaFrankCastle [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
Damn. You're not wasting any time! I bet your neighbors were thinking "it's finally over" when they saw Smurfette moving under it's own power. And then you rolled D3 in the garage and they just sighed. Take care with those body panels. I want to keep that patina on it when I'm rolling in my black Bronco. ;) |
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| Author: | Kinder [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
| Author: | akaFrankCastle [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
I'm happy I'll have big trees. And neighbors in their 70's. Once the hearing aids get taken out, it's grinder time. |
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| Author: | Lobobronco [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
No kidding on moving fast! That is awesome! Can't wait to see black smoke :)! Matt |
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| Author: | Jesus_man [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
Yeah baby!! Very excited for you! Your 4BT going to be boosted? Stacks? LOL! This is why I'll need three broncos. Trail rig - check Stocker/cruiser - ____ Diesel Cruiser - ____ |
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| Author: | offroad [ Wed May 01, 2013 3:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
So this must be why I saw your Bronco over at upullandpay a couple fridays ago haha. Good luck! Sounds like an awesome project. Was that your tub I saw on a trailer at work a while back? Had Arizona stickers on it and was super clean... |
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| Author: | Kinder [ Thu May 02, 2013 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
I was digging around for parts, I've been there way too much lately. The tub on the trailer was Willem's tub, you can see the finished product here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4027 It turned out nice and since it's out of my garage I'm able to tear into mine. |
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| Author: | Kinder [ Thu May 02, 2013 9:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
Made some good progress this afternoon, even had a little help. 1st time I've pulled a tub by myself and it worked out surprisingly well, I guess I've learned some good techniques during previous events. |
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| Author: | Justin [ Thu May 02, 2013 11:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
Holy smokes, you're getting things done! |
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| Author: | hockeydad4-22 [ Fri May 03, 2013 6:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
Its all nakid! Let me know when you are starting your stretch. I will come over and help cut, weld and grind. |
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| Author: | Kinder [ Fri May 03, 2013 6:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
Pulling drivetrain this afternoon, so if you have some time this weekend, yeah funny I know, I'd love some help. |
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| Author: | Kinder [ Fri May 03, 2013 6:43 am ] |
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| Author: | hockeydad4-22 [ Fri May 03, 2013 8:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
What time are you getting started tomorrow? I should be able to help out in the AM. |
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| Author: | Kinder [ Fri May 03, 2013 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
I'd like to start early but I think the neighbors would prefer later, how about 830? |
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| Author: | hockeydad4-22 [ Fri May 03, 2013 4:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
I have hockey in the am - I can come over after, mid morning - 10ish.... I think. I may have to deliver a desk top to a client instead. If that happens then this weekend will suck for me. I will let you know in the am. |
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| Author: | Kinder [ Fri May 03, 2013 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
Cool, my early filled up so 10'ish would work, let me know if you can make it. |
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| Author: | hockeydad4-22 [ Fri May 03, 2013 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
not looking promising right now....Drews is acting up. starter sheared off all its teeth and trans will not engage. or that is what I am told. Drew went to movies so I have not talked to him yet. havent looked at it yet either. prob jump into it tomorrow instead of hockey and have to deliver that desk top in the am too. Got to figure out why this thing is eating starters at least. ugh |
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| Author: | Kinder [ Fri May 03, 2013 9:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
I just happen to have a few spare items you may want; bell housing, flex plate, bell housing plate, starter, etc. |
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| Author: | Kinder [ Fri May 03, 2013 9:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
Had a good afternoon, Willem got out of school early and my buddy Dave who loves 1 ton truck stuff stopped by. We were able to pull the drivetrain and get the body prepped for delivery. Now I just need to do a bit of clean up on the parts that I'm going to reuse and pick the spot on the frame to cut. I'm going to be restricted on the spot due to the Duff long arms I have, they mount up in the prime flat section. I may end up using the bolts (they are also welded) that bolt them on and integrate that into the extension. Finally the man in brown rolled up before I shut the garage down and delivered my 203/205 adapter plate from Jed's Machining, it looks real nice. Tomorrow I think I'll pull out all the new to me drivetrain and mock it up to check the length. |
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| Author: | hockeydad4-22 [ Fri May 03, 2013 10:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
well I am going to drag the little turd outa bed early (ok, probably like 9ish) and see what I can figure out. I will let you know. Might make it over for the rest of the morning any way And we will take all the goodies you wanna give up (I will try to remember to bring that heavy gage cord for you too) |
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| Author: | Kinder [ Sat May 04, 2013 4:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Black Smoke Donkey |
Lined up all the drivetrain parts today, lengths are as follows. Engine 27" (+5" for clutch fan) Trans 29" NP203 6" Dbl'r plate 3" NP205 12" (measured to the u joint cap center for the rear driveshaft) So the total is 82", if I run electric fans I could subtract 2-3". I need to measure the old set up for comparison. I plan on setting the whole thing back into the frame as far as possible to get the weight off the frt axle, plus I'll likely cut into my firewall and add a body lift to get the fit right. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1367705533.408702.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1367706368.208079.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1367706379.169408.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1367706391.028532.jpg |
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