Opinion on Powder Coating

Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby TOOLMAN » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:12 am

All,

I wanted to know your opinion on the powder coating finishes on the Duff long arms. I got the silver vein finish, but one is clearly just silver. I don't think they match at all. What would you do?
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby B.O.B. » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:17 am

That sucks. I would contact them and s nd them pics. See if they will either ship you some new ones or discount the price. The thing that would suck though if you had to pay to ship the others back. From what I hear Duffs really take care of their custom rs so I think you would be okay.
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby BroncoRaider » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:13 am

Agree with Bobby. Just be thankful they aren’t from some other vendors that are notoriously difficult to deal with....
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby landshark » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:18 am

i would do the same, contact and see what they are willing to do. if it were me i wouldn't sweat it too much as you hopefully will never see them together, if you do then your probably doing it wrong like i did once...
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby ScottBarnes » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:25 am

That would drive me insane. Call them and I’d bet a corona they’ll take care of it.
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby TOOLMAN » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:46 am

landshark wrote:i would do the same, contact and see what they are willing to do. if it were me i wouldn't sweat it too much as you hopefully will never see them together, if you do then your probably doing it wrong like i did once...


I wouldn't sweat it too much either, usually. But I did spend nearly $1k there and spent extra for the silver vein!
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby TOOLMAN » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:47 am

ScottBarnes wrote:That would drive me insane. Call them and I’d bet a corona they’ll take care of it.


I'll take that bet...if you make it a Miller Lite on my end!
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby TOOLMAN » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:28 am

Called and sent them pictures. Here's their response:

Hi Jason. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We checked and found others that had a similar difference in pigment. We verified that there is no issue with strength or durability to the finish its just aesthetically different. We were also told it is not uncommon to see silver vein with a tight stitch do this especially on tubing. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do to help.

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I sent a response to the effect that it has nothing to do with the pigment, it has to do with one has vein and one doesn't. We'll see what they say. I don't want to do it, but I may have to get a little noisy on the national site.
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby mickphatmac » Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:31 am

On one hand I’m with the guys that say no biggie, you’ll never see them both at the same time and they’ll both look great no matter what!!!

BUT...

On the other hand were talkin ‘bout PRINCIPALITIES MAN!!!

If you paid extra for it and they didn’t deliver then I would demand your money back!

You’re talking about the national site, (CB.com) I would also go onto Facebook where they have a huge presence and a huge following of sheep...Me Included... I would bet that if you tag Michael Duff James Duff Susie Duff you would get lots and lots and lots of responses! And it would just be a matter of time before they made it right!
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby Jesus_man » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:33 pm

Yeah, I would ask to be refunded the "special paint" portion at the very least. It'd be one thing if they matched, but they clearly do not. And if you are not installing these on a show truck, then not many folks will ever know they were different.

Before you go national, I would make them aware of your expectations and what you think is fair. If there is no leeway, then you might need to escalate the issue.
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby ZOSO » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:26 pm

Hey what was the shipping cost? Im looking to order a set soon.
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby Viperwolf1 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:46 pm

ZOSO wrote:Hey what was the shipping cost? Im looking to order a set soon.
You should order one silver and one silver vein.
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby TOOLMAN » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:17 am

ZOSO wrote:Hey what was the shipping cost? Im looking to order a set soon.


I didn't have them shipped. I got lucky because my brother lives in Knoxville and he brought them out when he came out for a visit. Sorry I can't help you with that.
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby TOOLMAN » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:17 am

Viperwolf1 wrote:
ZOSO wrote:Hey what was the shipping cost? Im looking to order a set soon.
You should order one silver and one silver vein.


Too funny Phil.... icon biggin
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby Friday » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:53 am

I'd contact Doghows72 on the CB site, (he is a powder coater guy) just to see what he thinks of the pics and the explanation that Duffs' gave on why they are different.
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby ZOSO » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:49 am

TOOLMAN wrote:
ZOSO wrote:Hey what was the shipping cost? Im looking to order a set soon.


I didn't have them shipped. I got lucky because my brother lives in Knoxville and he brought them out when he came out for a visit. Sorry I can't help you with that.


Dang If I would have known....
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby TOOLMAN » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:14 pm

ZOSO wrote:
TOOLMAN wrote:
ZOSO wrote:Hey what was the shipping cost? Im looking to order a set soon.


I didn't have them shipped. I got lucky because my brother lives in Knoxville and he brought them out when he came out for a visit. Sorry I can't help you with that.


Dang If I would have known....


You probably weren't even thinking about it. He brought them to me just about the time you probably broke your long arm. Same weekend!
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby sykanr0ng » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:30 pm

TOOLMAN wrote:Called and sent them pictures. Here's their response:

Hi Jason. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We checked and found others that had a similar difference in pigment. We verified that there is no issue with strength or durability to the finish its just aesthetically different. We were also told it is not uncommon to see silver vein with a tight stitch do this especially on tubing. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do to help.

Sincerely,

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I sent a response to the effect that it has nothing to do with the pigment, it has to do with one has vein and one doesn't. We'll see what they say. I don't want to do it, but I may have to get a little noisy on the national site.


What I read this 'response' as is: 'Sux to be you.'

Does not seem to be them offering anything to make it right, really odd considering Duff's reputation for customer service.
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby cpldavis37 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:21 pm

If you used a credit card to purchase them and they are refusing to help you, you can reverse the charges. My friend had to do it with an online company. He ordered 1500 worth of body panels for his chevy. They were all dented and they refused to take them back. He reversed the charges and got all his money back. The company then sent him shipping labels and asked that he return everything. By that time he had thrown it all in the trash, so they were crap out of luck. Just an idea if they wont make it right.
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby TOOLMAN » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:03 am

Just wanted everyone to know Michael with Duff's and I came to an agreement and this issue has been resolved to my satisfaction!
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby mickphatmac » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:05 pm

C'mon!
Lay it on us man!
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Re: Opinion on Powder Coating

Postby BroncoRaider » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:54 pm

TOOLMAN wrote:Just wanted everyone to know Michael with Duff's and I came to an agreement and this issue has been resolved to my satisfaction!


Glad to hear!
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