I would have expected nothing less
so will you have a set of street tires or is it trailer only?
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| Author: | Jesus_man [ Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
How would that compare to a D60 you might find under a superduty or something? |
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| Author: | crawlercreations [ Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
| Author: | Jesus_man [ Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
Nice, so you've got the strength while saving yourself some weight. What pinion yoke size are you running? |
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| Author: | crawlercreations [ Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
| Author: | Gunnibronco [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
Thanks for posting this up. I've thought about different hybrid axles for a while now. I have a couple questions. First, a set of Rock Assault 9" housings are available for sale in Reno, and I thought about buying them. I have a set of 96ish Ford ball joint 60 outers, but they are still in storage in CO, so I can't check measurements. The 9" housings are 3.5" tubes, and from what I read these BJ Ford 60 tubes are just over 3". Is this correct? I'd hate to buy a 3.5" housing and find out my stuff wouldn't fit it. Also, did you use a jig or something else to prevent the housing from warping during welding? Thanks |
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| Author: | crawlercreations [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
| Author: | Gunnibronco [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
Thanks for the info. Glad to hear the housing didn't warp. Gives me some confidence to do it myself someday, instead of having it done. I cut up a bent 96? Ford D60 for my parts. I just wish I could be sure they were 3.5". I trust you are right, but the project wouldn't be for a while. Running the risk to save a little isn't worth it, right now. |
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| Author: | Jesus_man [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
I contemplated a Jana 54, and I may still do that, but I would love to get in Hi9 for the rear in a new housing! If I were building a buggy, I think I'd go with a portal setup of some sort based on the Ford 9". But what you just built would be second in line if portals didn't make sense. |
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| Author: | crawlercreations [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
| Author: | crawlercreations [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:42 pm ] |
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| Author: | crawlercreations [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
I am planning to install this starting on the 15th this month! It should be fairly smooth and quick. |
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| Author: | Gunnibronco [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
| Author: | crawlercreations [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
| Author: | Gunnibronco [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
Thanks, I knew the 60 axles wouldn't fit through the 44 knuckles. The 35 spline Ox would fit without the Jana kit, its for a 44. But I'm assuming the bearing issue is a killer. Also, if 50 gears won't hold up to the 60 axles then 44 gears certainly won't. There is one point on a 50 pinion that is the same diameter as a 44 pinion, I just can't remember the details, it's been too long since I was doing the reading. There is a 35 spline ARB D50 locker that can be used to build a Jana 654. http://www.ox-usa.com/dana-44/445-dana-44.html Seems to me, I should just forget the 654 or an Ox locked 44 with 60 outers/axles. And save the money and effort for a 60-9. I didn't realize the 9 was better clearance than a 44, so that would be better even if I stick with 37s. What are your thoughts on the 'other' HP 9", that runs reverse cut 8.8 gears (I forget the name right now)? Would it be enough? I know it's cheaper than a True Hi-9. edit: it looks like I was thinking of the Currie HP 9", but they no longer make the case. Thanks |
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| Author: | crawlercreations [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
| Author: | Gunnibronco [ Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
| Author: | Jesus_man [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
Ahh, I had forgotten about the Hi-9 in a rear application does run on the weaker side of the gears. Hmm, not a option then at this point. Being that the housing is symmetrical, surely someone could mirror a design to the other side to correct this? Or am I not thinking correctly? Thinking out loud, a portal would make the most sense in the rear as that is where I get hung up 99% of the time being a non-steer axle. But I wonder how close you could get the gearing to a non-portal axle... I do think suspension-wise, it wouldn't be too hard in the rear, especially if you 4-linked or at least ran longer leaf springs. With 35's and Chromo's I have not had any D44 issues in a while (aside from the chronic oil leak). But I too want to upsize the tires to at least 37's. If I start breaking things at that point, I will have to see what makes the most sense. Perhaps trussing this HP44, a full locker and running RCV's would be good enough. |
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| Author: | crawlercreations [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
Picked up a "little" something to help install the axle with the proper clearances for where I'll end up. 20180211_134441.jpg 20180211_134454.jpg 20180211_124939.jpg |
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| Author: | Strike2 [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
I would have expected nothing less so will you have a set of street tires or is it trailer only?
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| Author: | crawlercreations [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
| Author: | Jesus_man [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
I've never seen a new Trep in person, but wow, that is some tread!!! So now to find 3 more... |
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| Author: | crawlercreations [ Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
This happened today. I really liked the idea of stickies but I just know I'll be driving my Bronco on the street still and I can't handle the idea of 1000 miles out of a set of (expensive) tires. These should give me a nice balance of street and crawling. Plus side is they're actually a bit bigger than the trepador! Uninflated they're a solid 1.5 inch bigger. Inflated I'd expect 2 inches or so. So, not sticky, but bigger and dual purpose. Should be good! 20180213_140742.jpg 20180213_145317.jpg 20180213_161547.jpg |
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| Author: | Jesus_man [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
That'll make a huge difference! So the trep is a spare now? |
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| Author: | crawlercreations [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
| Author: | crawlercreations [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
This happened yesterday... 20180214_170045.jpg On to install now! |
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| Author: | Kinder [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
Blank slates are the best. |
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| Author: | crawlercreations [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
| Author: | Rox Crusher [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
those rocks don’t stand a chance |
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| Author: | crawlercreations [ Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
Things are progressing nicely! Still a fair amount of work to do but cycling the suspension feels like a big step! My calculator numbers came out pretty nice, let's just hope it translates well to the real world! 20180216_170722.jpg 20180216_174105.jpg 20180216_174115.jpg |
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| Author: | Jesus_man [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread |
How long are your links and can you send me a picture of the frame mount? Looks very tucked up in there!! |
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