Couple of EFI questions...

Get answers to Bronco-related technical issues.

Couple of EFI questions...

Postby cplynn » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:43 am

Got a '97 Explorer motor last weekend including the EEC, wiring harness, serpentine, etc., however there were a couple things I read in the .pdf files for an Early Bronco EFI swap on fordfuelinjection.com that I am looking for a little more clarification on if anyone can help.

1) How big a deal is it if the lower intake manifold does not have an ACT sensor mounting boss? Where would the sensor be if it is not on the lower intake? Somewhere around the MAF?

2) It is my understanding that the EEC from 1996-2001 Explorers cannot be used succesfully--or it is extremely difficult to swap them successfully--due to the EEC being an OBD-II computer, is this correct? Do I need to be looking for a 1989-1993 Mustang computer like the "Inject Your Horse--part 2" .pdf recommends?

3)Am I going to have to replace some or all of the sensors?
cplynn
Official CCB Member
Official CCB Member
 
Posts: 80
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:33 am
Location: Littleton

Re: Couple of EFI questions...

Postby crawlercreations » Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:41 pm

#1. Not a huge deal. If they aren't located in the lower intake they are usually located in the intake tubing after the MAF before the TB. Only thing you may have to do is extend the wiring to reach that location or remove the intake and drill and tap it.

#2. The Explorer computer is VERY difficult to use and would require all new wiring and such. Best bet is to get the earlier mustang stuff. Do yourself a favor and buy a new wiring harness from ford fuel injection!

#3. Most if not all of the sensors from that engine should work fine. Some of them may not..top of my head, maybe the TPS and MAF? Not too sure though!
There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"
User avatar
crawlercreations
Official CCB Member
Official CCB Member
 
Posts: 1101
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:36 pm
Location: Arvada

Re: Couple of EFI questions...

Postby goldenboy_cp » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:38 pm

if u call bronco hut, they do, and have done successfully 4 or 5 explorer swaps and have every thing you need including all advice tips
TRAVIS HOYLE
User avatar
goldenboy_cp
Official CCB Member
Official CCB Member
 
Posts: 128
Images: 13
Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:18 am
Location: Colorado springs, co

Re: Couple of EFI questions...

Postby Viperwolf1 » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:39 pm

Use the mustang ECM, harness and MAF. Everything else should work but a few of the actual connectors may be different than the mustang.
Viperwolf1
 

Re: Couple of EFI questions...

Postby cobshane » Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:44 pm

Is the computers a pain in the due the PATS antitheft.
User avatar
cobshane
Official CCB Member
Official CCB Member
 
Posts: 516
Images: 1
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:31 pm
Location: littleton

Re: Couple of EFI questions...

Postby ZOSO » Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:50 pm

I believe PATS started in 98. And even then if you did get froggy and wanted to do a OBDII set-up get a basic tune on a hand held and you can turn off PATS.
Rob

74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.

04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine

New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.

Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
User avatar
ZOSO
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 3908
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:58 pm
Location: Henderson, Co

Re: Couple of EFI questions...

Postby cobshane » Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:14 pm

I thought the pcm needs the pats signal to fire the injectors. I didn't know you could just turn it off. Do you have reprogram the computer? Do you need a factory scan tool for this?
User avatar
cobshane
Official CCB Member
Official CCB Member
 
Posts: 516
Images: 1
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:31 pm
Location: littleton

Re: Couple of EFI questions...

Postby ZOSO » Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:17 pm

Factory scan tool im not sure. But I know Diablosport, SCT, and Deltaforce aftermarket tuners can turn the PATS off. Yes it requires the re-program of the ECM.


I can turn it off in my cobra and use a regular key to start the car.
Rob

74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.

04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine

New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.

Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
User avatar
ZOSO
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 3908
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:58 pm
Location: Henderson, Co

Re: Couple of EFI questions...

Postby cobshane » Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:27 pm

Well that's always good info to know. Not that im doing this, but its cool to learn different ways of doing things.
User avatar
cobshane
Official CCB Member
Official CCB Member
 
Posts: 516
Images: 1
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:31 pm
Location: littleton


Return to General 4x4 Technical

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests

cron