EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby hockeydad4-22 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:34 am

Let's review what we have learned here:
#1- the state will require you to pass the emissions standards of the donor vehicle if you do an engine EFI swap on all 75 or newer broncos
#2- glove box VIN numbers are not the a tual legal numbers, instead they are merely there for waranty purposes
#3- when purchasing an eb, make sure there is only one VIN mumber and if there is more than one, get titles to all of them.
#4- all this is mute if you purchase a 1974 or older bronco because you do boot have to pass any emissions inspection at all and can get 5 year collector tags. Engine swaps included.
#5- I am very glad we have a 74.

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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby ZOSO » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:18 am

#4 is not 100% true. You have to pass the first emissions test for collectors tags. Then after that first one you are exempt.
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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby akaFrankCastle » Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:18 am

ZOSO wrote:#4 is not 100% true. You have to pass the first emissions test for collectors tags. Then after that first one you are exempt.


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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby hockeydad4-22 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:37 am

ZOSO wrote:#4 is not 100% true. You have to pass the first emissions test for collectors tags. Then after that first one you are exempt.




We live in highlands ranch and we just registered the 74 for the first time. We did not have to have it tested at all. And last summer when we registered the 66 stang, we did not have to get it tested either. We did have to get a VIN and safety inspection done on the stang because it had a salvadge title.

Perhaps I have an honest face or something but both cars have classic collectors plates and neither have been to an inspection station as long as we have owned them.
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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby ZOSO » Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:45 am

hockeydad4-22 wrote:
ZOSO wrote:#4 is not 100% true. You have to pass the first emissions test for collectors tags. Then after that first one you are exempt.




We live in highlands ranch and we just registered the 74 for the first time. We did not have to have it tested at all. And last summer when we registered the 66 stang, we did not have to get it tested either. We did have to get a VIN and safety inspection done on the stang because it had a salvadge title.

Perhaps I have an honest face or something but both cars have classic collectors plates and neither have been to an inspection station as long as we have owned them.



Wow you have been lucky.
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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby ZOSO » Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:24 am

thats a retarded amount for plates on an old vehicle. i thought the 180 I paid for my 79 was alot
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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby ClayJ » Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:19 am

ZOSO wrote:thats a retarded amount for plates on an old vehicle. i thought the 180 I paid for my 79 was alot


They taxed him on the sale price listed on the bill of sale.

A few months ago my daughter bought a used car. When we went to license it, the lady handed me a form to fill out. I put a reasonable sale price down and my daughter started to correct me (she does that allot). I elbowed her and continued filling out the form. She would have cost herself many hundred dollars if I'd put down the actual price.
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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby Bitch'nBronco » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:24 am

might want to pm rlougee. Hes somewhat of an EFI swap expert.
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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby Rox Crusher » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:41 am

BFD305 wrote:I think it is the EFI that causes the hang ups. Thanks, I will give him a call. I have a number for a guy in Windsor too.


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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby BFD305 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:15 pm

Still isn't resolved. it is in the state emissions computer as having a 1985 EFI engine. The only way to get it switched back to being tested at 1976 emission standards is to have it reinspected by a state tech to verify it has a carbeurated 302 with required emission components. It is in Windsor at BMF Performance. Still not passing emissions. I am sure the CAT from 1976 is bad. Wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't an annual test! Jonah got his license today, so we missed having it done, but such is life.
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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby Bitch'nBronco » Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:08 pm

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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby Rox Crusher » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:25 pm

Bitch'nBronco wrote:Maybe some new cats? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WLK-15038/


my thoughts exactly
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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby BFD305 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:33 pm

Ordered. Retest next week. We will see.
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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby Kinder » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:46 pm

I'm sure I'm stating the obvious but make sure you've run it enough to get the cats nice and hot before you roll into the test.
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Re: EFI Swap Emissions Disaster - Help, Ideas???

Postby ZOSO » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:23 pm

kinder wrote:I'm sure I'm stating the obvious but make sure you've run it enough to get the cats nice and hot before you roll into the test.


Just what he said. Drive 15-20 minutes on the highway then dont shut it off in the lanes
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