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Spark Plug Q

Postby ScottBarnes » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:31 am

Getting the Bronco ready for wheeling season, so I am changing the plugs. On the left are the Motorcraft plugs that are in there, and on the right are the Champion Iridium plugs I bought as a replacement.

Why is the firing tip/igniter on the Champion so much smaller? Is that ok? I’m running a ‘93 5.0 w/Mustang EFI if it matters.

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Re: Spark Plug Q

Postby ZOSO » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:51 pm

New plugs are too long. Bet they will either hit the vales or pistons. But that is what the iridium look like. They work really well and last a long time. Since they are conical seat the threaded body is too long. That's why they'll hit.
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Re: Spark Plug Q

Postby mickphatmac » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:48 pm

What Rob said
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Re: Spark Plug Q

Postby ScottBarnes » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:21 pm

mickphatmac wrote:What Rob said


Stupid Q #2 - how do I know the old ones aren’t incorrect and are actually too short?
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Re: Spark Plug Q

Postby ScottBarnes » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:45 pm

Here’s what got me perplexed. I went to my spare parts box I had put together for Baja, and forgot I had purchased a set of NKG plugs. Take a look..threads are the same length as the other new ones. So the quest is, are the new ones correct and the old ones incorrect? Shorter threaded plugs like the ones I took out would still fire the cylinder, correct?Image
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Re: Spark Plug Q

Postby horseplay » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:50 pm

Hey Scott so 1993 5.0 should use a Motor craft ASF4CA plug. stay away from champion plugs for your application they don't work well. Also platinum and Iiridium plugs don't perform well with older ignition systems. Both the champion and NGK plug look to have to long of a reach.
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Re: Spark Plug Q

Postby ScottBarnes » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:53 pm

Ok I’ll go grab a set of those. Thanks much!
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Spark Plug Q

Postby ScottBarnes » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:07 pm

horseplay wrote:Hey Scott so 1993 5.0 should use a Motor craft ASF4CA plug. stay away from champion plugs for your application they don't work well. Also platinum and Iiridium plugs don't perform well with older ignition systems. Both the champion and NGK plug look to have to long of a reach.

I'm not getting any love searching for that Motorcraft part number (asf4ca) -- The parts houses (and Ford) are calling for a Motorcraft SP502 platinum and Sp450 Copper.
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Re: Spark Plug Q

Postby horseplay » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:19 pm

That is a Motorcraft # if you can't find them happy to get some and send them to you copper core no platinum.
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Re: Spark Plug Q

Postby horseplay » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:23 pm

The parts house probably only has the Champion that's why they are pushing you in that direction. I've not had good luck or performance out of champion products.
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Re: Spark Plug Q

Postby ScottBarnes » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:31 pm

I don't why I typed Champion earlier..I didn't mean to.. I was searching for Motorcraft asf4ca and got no hits on google. Went to Ford site and that's where I found the Motorcraft SP450A as OE replacement. Autozone, O'reilly and Advance Auto sites show the same (SP450A) for copper Motorcraft plugs for the '93 Mustang w/5.0. Dang..they're just spark plugs! why is everything such a pita on this Bronco? LOL
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Spark Plug Q

Postby Kinder » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:33 am

NAPA shows an Autolite ASP 764 as an OE replacement, its Copper Core. The picture they show looks to be the shorter thread depth, you’d have to swing by and check the thread depth. They also show some plugs that appear to insert into the cylinder deeper as an alternative. I’m fairly sure the 5.0 is a “non-interference” design, so you could run an alternative plug, but if you don’t have a reason to switch I wouldn’t.

From your picture, the plug type looks like it’s performing well.
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Re: Spark Plug Q

Postby ScottBarnes » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:21 am

Well, you won’t get results searching for ASF42CA, but there it is stamped on the plug and the box. All websites and parts stores know them as SP-450A. Weird. Thanks for the help and info! ImageImage
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Re: Spark Plug Q

Postby horseplay » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:31 am

Looks like you got the right plug. I'm assuming the reach on the plug is the shorter version.
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Re: Spark Plug Q

Postby ScottBarnes » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:15 pm

horseplay wrote:Looks like you got the right plug. I'm assuming the reach on the plug is the shorter version.

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