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patrickc
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Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 22 Location: Grand Junction
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Power Steering
I'm hoping to put power steering in my 68 soon, and from everything I've seen it doesn't look like it will work with the original radiator fill tank. I'm just trying to find out if I need to replace the radiator first before I tackle the power steering.
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Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:29 pm |
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Cortez
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:01 am Posts: 90 Images: 0 Location: COMMERCE CITY, CO
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Re: Power Steering
I don't know about the radiator fill tank, but I upgraded to PS on my '67 and it really didn't take up any more space than the original gear box...just had to add the PS pump and lines. You could always get junkyard radiator overflow tank if you need to go smaller or relocate it.
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Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:45 pm |
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patrickc
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Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 22 Location: Grand Junction
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Re: Power Steering
I wasn't sure, it just looks real cramped where the P/S pump goes. Besides I would rather put the money in the power steering, any good suggestions on that. I do have a steering box from a 73. I don't know anything about the condition though.
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Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:14 pm |
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Cortez
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:01 am Posts: 90 Images: 0 Location: COMMERCE CITY, CO
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Re: Power Steering
Go with a Ford solution. I did the Nissan pathfinder swap, and although it bolts to the frame in the existing holes, I had a helluva time fabricating a drop pitman arm to match my lift height. It works good now, but I had to graft two pitman arms together to get a drop length that was good...save yourself the headache if you were ever considering the Nissan solution.
_________________ BCO Junky - NP435, PS & PB Conversion + Hydroboost, 3.5"SL+1"BL, 35" MT's, D44 Swap, Family Cage. Saving for EFI, Seats, and Paint
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Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:09 pm |
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Justin
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:04 am Posts: 6198 Images: 0 Location: Lakewood
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Re: Power Steering
Going with the steering box you have would be a great place to start, as you've got little to lose other than some time if it doesn't work out. If you're feeling like being extra secure, you could sent it to one of the rebuilders. There is a good one in Texas, but I'm drawing a blank on the name. Frankly, if that one doesn't work I'd talk to cascadejohnson about the 4x4x2 boxes he builds. That is a really powerful, durable solution if you're willing to do some minor modifications to the frame (drill a couple of new holes and put in a little bit of reinforcement).
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Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:48 pm |
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airbur
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:39 am Posts: 1721 Images: 0 Location: Castle Pines, CO
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Re: Power Steering
I found a rebuilt '76 Bronco power steering box through West Coast Broncos. That and a couple new pulleys, pump, filter, and lines and it didn't take up much more room....
Yes, I painted it red....don't ask me why....I don't like it....it is what it is:)
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:32 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Power Steering
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Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:58 am |
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Justin
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Re: Power Steering
Zilla, are you knocking pink? I was thinking about doing PS box in a nice lavender.
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Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:48 pm |
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ClayJ
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Joined: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:45 am Posts: 521 Images: 0 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Power Steering
My kids tease me all the time about the Bronco being so faded it's pink.
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Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:55 pm |
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patrickc
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Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 22 Location: Grand Junction
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Re: Power Steering
Thanks for all the advice. I'm getting ready to order everything else I need minus the steering box, hope it works.
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Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:50 pm |
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patrickc
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Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 22 Location: Grand Junction
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Re: Power Steering
Just started my power steering install. The box is from a 73 Bronco, so I figured it should fit right in. It looks like I'm going to have to grind out a little on the lip of the radiator support. Has anybody else ran across this.
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Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:37 pm |
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sbolt19
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Re: Power Steering
Yup, pretty typical. The late '72 and up have a different core support & inner fender apron than mid '72 and older. They were put there for the extra inch or so in length of the box & for the steering column rag joint.
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Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:40 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Power Steering
Exactly the same on mine....I still need to get int here and fix it.
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Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:42 pm |
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patrickc
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Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 22 Location: Grand Junction
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Re: Power Steering
Getting close to being done. According to the instructions I need to drill through the upper u-joint and the steering shaft with a # 7 drill bit. What size is a #7 drill bit? After that I tap the hole with 1/4"-28 tap. Also what is everyone using for power steering fluid?
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Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:53 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Power Steering
I just use Napa standard stuff... https://www.napaautoparts.com/Catalog/C ... 0006532578Sorry, can't help with the drilling specs...I used a new lower column. Good luck!
_________________ Sold: 1970 w/427W Injected Stroker
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Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:08 pm |
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patrickc
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Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 22 Location: Grand Junction
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Re: Power Steering
Finally got everything hooked up and went to test run. The new P/S pump is a lot noisier than it should be, any suggestions?
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Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:26 pm |
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BFD305
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:33 pm Posts: 231 Images: 5 Location: Greeley, CO
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Re: Power Steering
Might take a while to get everything primed. On ours we turned right to left (stop to stop) a few times and refilled the reservoir. I know on my sons even if it is a little low it starts howling a bit.
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Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:52 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:25 pm Posts: 4901 Images: 0 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Power Steering
Recently heard from another Bronco guy that some of the rebuilt/new Saginaws are coming with a notice that there may be some howling/squealing for the first 500 or so miles. Break in period or something. Put the front end on jack stands and work that wheel back and forth, just as BFD said, to work out all the air in the system. Keep checking the fluid level and ensure you are topped off. And, as always, check your belts to make sure they are tight.
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
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Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:25 pm |
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patrickc
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Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 22 Location: Grand Junction
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Re: Power Steering
Worked it back and forth for a while then let it sit for a while. It doesn't whine near as much now, even took it for a test drive. So much nicer now!!!
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Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:13 pm |
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Shawns Fords
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Re: Power Steering
Ive used a spoonfull of friction modifier to quiet them old pumps. some of them get quiet and some do not.
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Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:28 pm |
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