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Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby kchaser » Mon May 30, 2011 12:53 pm

Fun weekend wheeling but my Detroit in the front of my HP Dana44 called it quits. I heard a mild pop and the long side stopped spinning. Figured I broke (another) chrome moly shaft but the ears were still together. Took axle out at camp and axle looks like new. Figure it must be my locker since every once in awhile it locks in but not very often and the lockout look fine as well.
I haven’t taken it apart yet but can you get parts for a Detroit, or get them rebuilt or is a new one in my future $$$$$
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Re: Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby MOLLEY » Mon May 30, 2011 1:26 pm

did you blow up a hub ? . is other side still turning / locked in ? is it a soft locker detroit or ? did it start acting up for awhile or just pop and quit ?
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Re: Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby kchaser » Mon May 30, 2011 1:50 pm

MOLLEY wrote:did you blow up a hub ? . is other side still turning / locked in ? is it a soft locker detroit or ? did it start acting up for awhile or just pop and quit ?


Hub looks fine, other side is still turning with the "broken" side locked in or not, basically just a pop and quit, but its still locks in on occasion but only for a few seconds. I think its the Detroit NoSpin?, not the soft locker. I bought it about 16yrs ago for $600+- and have had 0 problems till now.
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Re: Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby MOLLEY » Mon May 30, 2011 7:31 pm

66 Bronco (Molley) injected 418 stroker on juice, klune v ,4 speed atlas hi 9 35 spline air lockers front & rear, rcv axles. 37'' red krawlers. Four other sets of tires for ice racing and dirt drags. 290lbs of welding wire.
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Re: Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby Jesus_man » Tue May 31, 2011 6:59 am

Maybe it needs a rebuild...

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Re: Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby kchaser » Tue May 31, 2011 7:58 pm

Jesus_man wrote:Maybe it needs a rebuild...

J.D.


I pulled it, cleaned it, put it back together and it does the same thing. Taken just the locker to Johns 4x4 in FC to see if they can rebuild it. If not, i will have a shortened HP Dana 44 with Yukon axles and gold ujoints, disc brakes for sale cause im am ready for a axle upgrade.
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Re: Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby Jesus_man » Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:51 am

There are springs in there that are likely worn out. Not to mention some teeth on some of the gears. Cleaning it won't help that. I am pretty sure there is a rebuild kit out there for them. Let us know what the shop says.

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Re: Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby kchaser » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:53 pm

Jesus_man wrote:There are springs in there that are likely worn out. Not to mention some teeth on some of the gears. Cleaning it won't help that. I am pretty sure there is a rebuild kit out there for them. Let us know what the shop says.

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Spings seemed good yet but hard to tell. No missing teeth on anything and very little ware on anything. They have it so I will post an update when I know more.
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Re: Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby kchaser » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:20 pm

Johns 4x4 looked at the locker and tested it. Said everything is within spec and tested fine. Put everything back together tonight and... nope no worky. Not sure whats up, this weekend it was the long side that gave up, now that its back together its the short side that wont spin. You can hear the locker clickin but won't lock up. 17" Beadlocks are in the garage, 42" pitbull rockers arrive early next week, i knew i was in line for a axle upgrade but wanted to to wait till winter...
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Re: Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby Jesus_man » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:15 am

Very strange! How are you testing it?

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Re: Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby ZOSO » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:19 am

Unless your driving it you can't test it. Just spinning tires in the air will cause it to lock one side and the other just "click" when turning the tire.
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Re: Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby crawlercreations » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:44 am

kchaser wrote:Johns 4x4 looked at the locker and tested it. Said everything is within spec and tested fine. Put everything back together tonight and... nope no worky. Not sure whats up, this weekend it was the long side that gave up, now that its back together its the short side that wont spin. You can hear the locker clickin but won't lock up. 17" Beadlocks are in the garage, 42" pitbull rockers arrive early next week, i knew i was in line for a axle upgrade but wanted to to wait till winter...


42s and a dana 44????? I feel like I will be pushing my 44 when I go to 40s! I have broken enough stuff on 37s!! I hope you plan on running rcvs at the minimum!! Or just don't mind breaking axles all the time!
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Re: Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby kchaser » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:10 pm

ZOSO wrote:Unless your driving it you can't test it. Just spinning tires in the air will cause it to lock one side and the other just "click" when turning the tire.

I'm driving it to test it. Tcase has a front wheel drive position and i live on a gravel road. Its just broken... Guess its time for the welder cause im not spending any money on this axle.

crawler... I have enough broken dana 44 shafts from 33's and 35's to know what these 42's are going to do. The Yukon shafts have held up well to 35's and a heavy foot (only twisted one outer that didn't break), so i was hoping to make the 42's and a very tender foot last until I get the 60 shortened and filled with the good stuff.

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Re: Detroit Locker Experts?

Postby rtreads » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:44 pm

John's 4x4 says its good, but it doesn't work? Either they did a crap job checking it out, or something is up???
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