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D20 tcase rear output not smooth
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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D20 tcase rear output not smooth
So I installed my tranny & tcase today. No driveshafts, yet.
Tranny in neutral, tcase in 2 high.
When turning the rear yoke by hand, there is a slight click or catch when you first start to turn the yoke. It happens forward or reverse, but only when you first turn the yoke. Otherwise, it turns smootly.
Can anyone tell me what might be wrong? Does it need fixed? Will it grenade at the worst possible time, and leave me stranded in BFE in a snowstorm? Can it be fixed by just removing the rear output? I don't really have the time, or want to spend the money rebuilding my D20. I'd like to bandaid this if possible, and hold out for a real tcase upgrade in the future. I'd really like to fix this without taking the tcase back out.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:12 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: D20 tcase rear output not smooth
Have you thought about pulling the inspection plate and having a look inside while turning it?
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:00 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: D20 tcase rear output not smooth
Other than remove & reinstall my tcase, I've never done more than change the oil. Its one of the last parts of my truck that I've never even opened up. I'll try that tomorrow, and see what I can.
It feels like a little slop with the tcase in 2 or 4 high. And it feels more like a catch or click in 2 or 4 low. It doesn't do it in neutral, and the front yoke doesn't do it.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:05 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: D20 tcase rear output not smooth
Hopefully someone familiar with the gears can help. I know it's not as easy in your neck of the woods, but D20 cases are pretty cheap to just buy another to swap in.
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:45 am |
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Colorado75bronc
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Re: D20 tcase rear output not smooth
Does it actually click or does it feel like excessive backlash (play between a set of gears) like when a diff is setup too loose?
_________________ 75' bronco, 302, carb'd for now, i'm gathering parts for efi, 3g alternator, saginaw pump, 4x4x2 box, fw hp44, fw 9", N.P. 435 w/ gearbanger shifter, twin stick'd dana 20, 2" BL, 5.5" wildhorses lift, and 35" km2's
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Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:29 am |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: D20 tcase rear output not smooth
I took a closer look at it and it does feel more like slop than a click. In low gear, the slop is more obvious and feels more like a click. It only happens on the rear output shaft and only with the tcase with the rear engaged.
I decided to just reinstall everything and live with it for a while. I've arranged to get a rebuild D20, but its going to take a month or more. I think my junk will hold together, till I can swap it out. I wanted to hold out and scrap the D20 for an Atlas and 4R70W, but that is at least a year or two away.
Everything is together, and I'm going to fire it up today.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:56 am |
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Colorado75bronc
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Re: D20 tcase rear output not smooth
You'll probably be fine, if it's just slop it should be fine as long as its not really loose
_________________ 75' bronco, 302, carb'd for now, i'm gathering parts for efi, 3g alternator, saginaw pump, 4x4x2 box, fw hp44, fw 9", N.P. 435 w/ gearbanger shifter, twin stick'd dana 20, 2" BL, 5.5" wildhorses lift, and 35" km2's
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Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:00 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: D20 tcase rear output not smooth
Drove it today, and it drives fine. I'm sure its on a slow road to failing, but it will last till I can get a rebuilt one. I don't have any thing planned except hunting season in early November, so it won't get pushed hard. Hunting season could be rough, depending on the weather, but I think it will last. Maybe I can get it swapped by then, but I don't know.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:46 pm |
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