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phyler
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Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:41 pm Posts: 1201 Location: Erie
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New tie-rods and TRO
As part of my disc conversion, I've realized I need new tie-rods. After looking at it, just to buy the left and right tie-rods is almost (if not a bit more) expensive as it is to go to 1-ton tie-rods it appears. Ruff Stuff has their special going and this is what I'm thinking of buying: http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/YLINK.htmlI will add on the steering inserts and the stabilizer bracket. I know that those two pieces combined with paying someone to weld it will cost me more but not by much and then the TRE's are much easier to swap and adjust later on. In addition, I can do the TRO. First, anything I should consider instead of the Ruff Stuff kit? Second, before doing the disc conversion, I had great steering, no bump steer or death wobble. When I just mocked up the TRO, it looked like the track bar and drag link will not be parallel. I have 2.5" of lift currently. Everything I've read has said not to do a dropped pitman with TRO but the raised track bar bracket seems to be for 3.5" of lift or more. What should I be considering? Or am I doing what I tend to and just over thinking at the moment? Thanks for the advice. Adam
_________________ 1975 Ranger Edition that I've had longer than I've been without it.
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:56 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: New tie-rods and TRO
I did the Ruffstuff 1 ton set up, 3 years ago, when I went full width. I'm very happy with it, but I've already worn out a set of tie rod ends. I bought TREs from Carquest & they have a life time warranty. I'd say buy a set of TREs locally & make sure they can be swapped out.
As for the TRO & drop pitman, I ran a drop pitman arm with 15 year old 3.5" springs, bowed out to full width axles, and a winch, no problem. I'm sure I was closer to 2.5" lift than 3.5". I did run the drag link end down through the pitman arm, instead of up through it for better geometry.
I say put it together and see how it handles. I had minor bump steer when I'd bounce through stuff going too fast. But normal town driving and sensible trail driving & rock crawling it was not noticeable. Nice thing is you can swap pitman arms, or do the track bar riser later, if needed.
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_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:18 pm |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: New tie-rods and TRO
A bunch of us, like 5+, built up the Ruffstuff TRO setup a couple of years back. I'm happy with my system and have yet to replace a piece of it and I've used it for sure. That being said, I'm with Gunni above on local parts as I believe 76fordbronco did have a issue with a Ruffstuff TRE when he needed a replacement.
_________________ Best to Date MPG: 26.6
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:03 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: New tie-rods and TRO
Mine has been working great, no issues.
I have been meaning to buy a couple replacement ends as I believe they are proprietary?
What year is your Bronco ?
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:17 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: New tie-rods and TRO
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:49 pm |
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phyler
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Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:41 pm Posts: 1201 Location: Erie
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Re: New tie-rods and TRO
My Bronco is a 75. I thought ruff stuff was using standard Chevy ends. Probably a good idea to check but they sell the ends alone for like $20 each which isn't bad.
I think I'll go ahead and do it. Worse case, I move on to upgrading something else on the front end. :)
_________________ 1975 Ranger Edition that I've had longer than I've been without it.
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:06 pm |
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Justin
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:04 am Posts: 6198 Images: 0 Location: Lakewood
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Re: New tie-rods and TRO
I'd do it, it's a great upgrade that saves money in the long run. Here's the write up on mine: viewtopic.php?f=32&t=963&hilit=heavy+duty+tie+rod. I'd buy your stuff locally, as it's likely going to be cheaper and easier to replace. I went with the spendy ends for mine and still shelled out less than the RuffStuff kit. That said, if you do buy from them, there's a 22.5% discount right now. I seriously doubt they're proprietary, other than maybe being different in length, which could be a problem should you ever need to replace one.
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:52 pm |
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phyler
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Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:41 pm Posts: 1201 Location: Erie
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Re: New tie-rods and TRO
I pulled the trigger. Everything with shipping was just under $250 due to the discount. I'm traveling for the next 3 weeks so my hope is to get it all put back together the week between Christmas and new years. I'm sure I could find everything for cheaper but based on my schedule, I'm good with the kit. Thanks for the advice and encouragement.
_________________ 1975 Ranger Edition that I've had longer than I've been without it.
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:02 pm |
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Justin
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:04 am Posts: 6198 Images: 0 Location: Lakewood
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Re: New tie-rods and TRO
That's a great deal, esp with the convenience of the kit. I'd have done the same thing.
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:09 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: New tie-rods and TRO
If anyone is in need for Chevy TRE's check rockauto.com. Ordered up a couple sets from them a few years ago and still have a brand new set as a spare. I don't recall the brand, but the box was white & blue as I recall.
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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