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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Kinder » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:08 pm

Wow, never really checked into this, last was the 1st year that I put non-licensed vehicle on the trails with a sticker and that was only because the dealer paid for it when I bought my boys some dirt bikes. I’m wondering how this is going to shake out and which roads/trails/areas will be “declared” as OHV routes and which won’t.

I’m with Zilla and questioning how the money will be used, I’m sure we could request a audit or report showing where the money has been going up to this point. Plus it looks like the enforcement piece will take a bit of time to get normalized.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Booger » Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:58 pm

I don't mind if the money goes to trail maintenance and all, but with the FS starting to use the philosophy "It's closed unless marked open" there will be less trails/roads to four wheel. That means more money for fewer trails then the state will see that as a way to divert the funds to social programs. banghead
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby sbolt19 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:58 am

Booger wrote: That means more money for fewer trails then the state will see that as a way to divert the funds to social programs. banghead


You mean like what they just did with all the DOW funds?
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Booger » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:21 pm

Just like that.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby rtreads » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:58 pm

Whats up with the "recreation" part? So if I'm there giving paid guided tours I dont have to pay? ...another reason to bring a passanger?

(b) On and after January 1, 1991, the owner of every vehicle required to be registered pursuant to article 3 of title 42, C.R.S., and the owner or operator of every motor vehicle and off-highway vehicle from another state or country, when such vehicle is being used for recreational travel upon designated off-highway vehicle routes, shall obtain and display on such vehicle an off-highway use permit.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Jesus_man » Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:33 am

Total and utter BS!! Money is short and they are looking for ways to get into our pockets once again! Spent wisely, there is already enough money to maintain these off-highway routes, but instead of being wise, they figure out another way to take more of your paycheck!

I don't like the idea of having to register ATV's, dirt bikes, etc, but I can see where since they are using the roads, they should help to pay for maintenance. What I don't agree with is making those of us who have plates on our rigs to pay AGAIN for a sticker to simply drive down a FS road. Hell, I take 3 of the 4 rigs I have offroad regularly, so while the $30 ($10 each right?) a year isn't a killer, it boils down to the principal for me!! What about my trailer and camper? Where does it end? They, being the govenrment, seem to think the people are a bottomless pit for their reckless spending and soon, very soon, that pit will dry up.

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Correction, it's $25.25 ea., so that's $75.75 a year and becomes more of a burden. I have also considered crashing some friends camping parties, but I could take my Ford Focus there. Then I would have to get a permit for it... asinine!
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Jesus_man » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:06 am

zillacon wrote:they now require a $5 fee for all Mountain Bike trails in the Boulder area.


SURPRISE!! slap little Cali right there...

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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Dukietown » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:20 pm

Good friend of mine bought a Razer 900 and they wouldn't give him OHV tags. Said they're too big and he'd have to go pay for full street plates. Then the DMV wanted him to put full lights/signals etc on it.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby sbolt19 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:38 pm

Thought that was the whole point of Polaris coming out with the Razor, a side by side that could go on quad tracks with an OHV sticker. At least that is what the guy at the Polaris dealer told me last summer.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Gregg » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:53 am

So we are going wheeling next weekend (Labor Day MSV). Do you think we should get permits?
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Jesus_man » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:58 am

Gregg wrote:So we are going wheeling next weekend (Labor Day MSV). Do you think we should get permits?


Sounds like it's illegal without them...

Am I buying any for my trip? - nope.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Rox Crusher » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:47 am

Gregg wrote:So we are going wheeling next weekend (Labor Day MSV). Do you think we should get permits?


I am a "good citizen" and all but this ol boy won't be buying any until absolutely necessary.............

I think they said they are in the "information" stage so I just plan to play dumb if asked hoping they haven't moved to the "enforcement" phase just yet
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby ZOSO » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:22 pm

This means ill spend another 100 bucks over the outrageous prices for plates. What next make every road a toll road? Or charge us by the mile? Its getting too much.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Jesus_man » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:23 pm

"supposedly" that is the case Rox, but the same discussion over on CO4x4 is going on and one fella got a ticket.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Kinder » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:26 pm

I can only guess that the holiday weekend will bring out the enforcers, but I'd be willing to take a chance, just keep Rox in front of you so he can block icon biggin
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Rox Crusher » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:24 pm

ZOSO wrote:Or charge us by the mile?


Believe it or not this is a serious proposition amongst government lobbyist groups representing the road construction industry.

The Federal Gas tax is fixed at 28 cents per gallon and has been since the late 70s.

These funds, along with state gas tax funds, are routinely allocated for other "emergency" uses.

Couple this with the advent of more fuel efficient vehicles and the gas tax revenue projections show steady decline over the next twenty years.

They keep selling us car crazy citizens on road improvements which don't happen even if the "dedicated funding" is collected.

OOPS..................we were talking about OHV permits......................sorry.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Jesus_man » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:31 pm

Rox, you bring up a big point tho. The promises of dedicated funds are rarely kept. We need to nail these guys to the wall and tell them how we want our money spent and if it isn't spent that way, what penalties there will be. These people work for us!! They need to stop acting like elitists.

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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Gregg » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:52 pm

I just got back from a little trail ride up lefthand canyon and stopped to read the signs. That one still said "OHV Registration is not required for vehicles with current license plates". Doesn't seem consistant, but that will be my excuse "Mr. Forest Service Man".
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Gregg » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:35 pm

Just sent the phone pics I took to you. Good call for me to have these pics to show anyone giving me $hit for permits.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Gregg » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:02 pm

I'll try to post from my phone. Where would we go to get permits? motorcross cycle or bicycle shop?
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Kinder » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:58 am

My local motorcycle shop is where I get the regular OHV sticker / reg for our dirt bikes, I'm wondering if they'll have the permits? I'll swing by sometime today and see what they say, I'd hate to get a ticket for my one day of wheeling for the entire year.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Booger » Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:07 pm

zillacon wrote:I got mine from Sun Honda but have bought them for my ATV's at Colorado powersports. They will send you a renewal after the first year you purchase one.

Here is another sign that was posted for STT that states the same as the one you saw.

Of course they would have a double standard. Why not, if you can have a standard why not make it a double. flipoff Well they may have to give me a few of them tickets cause I refuse I tell ya I refuse. laughing2
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Frank Smolka » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:12 pm

Would Someone CALL FRANK SMOLKA at 303-979-8551 or if necessary Email at Frsmolka@gmail.com about how to get the OHV passes mandatory for OHV trails? Thanks for CALLING ME if possible.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby ak68 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:04 pm

It may be different in different parts of Colorado but if your vehicle is licensed and legal for the road then no OHV. Only non-licensed OHV's need the sticker.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby ZOSO » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:09 pm

ak68 wrote:It may be different in different parts of Colorado but if your vehicle is licensed and legal for the road then no OHV. Only non-licensed OHV's need the sticker.



Not true. the law states that whether you are plated or not if you are on a "defined" trail in colorado you need an OHV sticker. Now what constitutes a defined trail is up in the air. A forrest service road? A marked trail system like penrose?
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All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV tags

Postby Kinder » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:04 pm

My statements do not represent the state view, whew, now that that is out of the way.

I've been asking about this issue when I run into the OHV enforcement Rangers and they are very chill about it and use their professional discretion to enforce the law. "Mostly" they seem to be after the ATV, UTV, Dirt Bike and Buggy crowd, not after the plated street legal vehicles. These are the state Rangers, not the federal Forest Service folks.

The argument for the OHV tags are thus in my mind. Your license plate and associated fees fund roads, not trails, so if you pay up for the OHV tag it should be helping our trail system. I have no idea how the state is using these funds, I hope wisely.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Gunnibronco » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:16 pm

I haven't seen or heard of anyone getting ticketed. We have a real "Tree Nazi" Forrest Service cop in the area. He's got a bad reputation for throwing the book at everyone. If he's not doing it, I doubt many are.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Jesus_man » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:19 am

kinder wrote:The argument for the OHV tags are thus in my mind. Your license plate and associated fees fund roads, not trails, so if you pay up for the OHV tag it should be helping our trail system. I have no idea how the state is using these funds, I hope wisely.


I am all for doing this *if* the funds go directly to trail maintenance, but I wonder what traditionally has funded this and where is that money now? Or is it a ploy to get more of our money??
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Gunnibronco » Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:13 am

Jesus_man wrote:
kinder wrote:The argument for the OHV tags are thus in my mind. Your license plate and associated fees fund roads, not trails, so if you pay up for the OHV tag it should be helping our trail system. I have no idea how the state is using these funds, I hope wisely.


I am all for doing this *if* the funds go directly to trail maintenance, but I wonder what traditionally has funded this and where is that money now? Or is it a ploy to get more of our money??


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Seems like they want more money, all while shutting down trails.
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Re: All Vehicles on OHV trails are required to purchase OHV

Postby Eck » Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:43 am

Was driving back into CO on I-25 from WY yesterday and the first billboard about 200 yards into CO was a "Stay the Trail" sign that said, Register your vehicle and stay the trail. Had a picture of a Jeep and an ATV.

I had never even considered needing one for the Bronco... Hmm.
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