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351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby landshark » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:46 pm

I am looking for a block plate for a 351 to a c4 for my racer build. Thought I had one but can’t find it.
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby mickphatmac » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:39 am

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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby pgilbeau » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:47 pm

Not sure which style is needed, I have a solid one I have no use for.
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby landshark » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:56 pm

I found this one on my shelf which i think is for a manual, can you take a photo of yours?

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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby pgilbeau » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:57 pm

[quote="landshark"]I found this one on my shelf which i think is for a manual, can you take a photo of yours?

I will grab a pic when I get home tonight.
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby mickphatmac » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:56 pm

Should be open at the bottom so you can bolt in the torque converter

I’m missing the lower part of this one
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby landshark » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:01 pm

mickphatmac wrote:Should be open at the bottom so you can bolt in the torque converter

I’m missing the lower part of this one


Also I believe the starter hole is in a slightly different location.
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby mickphatmac » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:12 pm

I don’t know if that will fit your engine or not you’re more than welcome to it if you know someone heading South from North?
It was on one of my C4’s for a 302
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby pgilbeau » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:17 pm

Pretty sure this one is actually from a manual after seeing the other pics. What year was the 351W from?
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby landshark » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:33 pm

mickphatmac wrote:I don’t know if that will fit your engine or not you’re more than welcome to it if you know someone heading South from North?
It was on one of my C4’s for a 302


Not sure i will check
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby landshark » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:33 pm

pgilbeau wrote:Pretty sure this one is actually from a manual after seeing the other pics. What year was the 351W from?


Late mid 90’s 351w

I think 93-94
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby ZOSO » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:09 pm

Any auto small block would work. Chris the one you posted is 351m/400/429/460
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby Viperwolf1 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:31 pm

ZOSO wrote:Any auto small block would work. Chris the one you posted is 351m/400/429/460
Needs to be 164 tooth flexplate version.
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby ZOSO » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:58 am

Viperwolf1 wrote:
ZOSO wrote:Any auto small block would work. Chris the one you posted is 351m/400/429/460
Needs to be 164 tooth flexplate version.



Please explain? Since the bolt pattern is the same how does this plate make a difference? Is the starter in a different location?
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby Viperwolf1 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:04 pm

ZOSO wrote:
Viperwolf1 wrote:
ZOSO wrote:Any auto small block would work. Chris the one you posted is 351m/400/429/460
Needs to be 164 tooth flexplate version.



Please explain? Since the bolt pattern is the same how does this plate make a difference? Is the starter in a different location?
Yes. A smaller flexplate needs to have the starter moved in so it can still contact the teeth properly. You would notice it if you tried to put a small (157 tooth or less) block plate into a 164 tooth bell. The starter bolt holes won't quite line up.
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby ZOSO » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:31 pm

Makes sense. So is there specific vehicles or years that are 157? or is it a mix?
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby Viperwolf1 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:37 pm

ZOSO wrote:Makes sense. So is there specific vehicles or years that are 157? or is it a mix?
Big heavy vehicles got the bigger flexplate. Mustang's in the 60-70's were typically 157 tooth and that even got smaller during the pinto era.
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby EFI Guy » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:30 pm

I'm pretty sure I've got one, maybe two. I'm in the same boat of needing to find them, but if you shoot me a reminder text tomorrow afternoon I'll look for them.
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby landshark » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:15 pm

Still looking! I will probably find one online in the next couple of days if I can’t find one locally.
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby ZOSO » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:24 pm

Last time we had a breakfast at BH they had some.
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Re: 351 engine to c4 block plate needed

Postby landshark » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:03 pm

Got this taken care of thanks.
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