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Strike2
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Damn sorry to hear about the issue, were the heads redone before install, how long had it been sitting before firing it up?
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Justin
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Heads were gone through (cleaned and new valve springs) by Scott at MPG heads and later machined by Western Engine. Engine sat for 12-18 months before being fired.
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:11 am |
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crawlercreations
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Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:36 pm Posts: 1101 Location: Arvada
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
I'd bet you lost a head gasket. I'm guessing Kirk might chime in but I sold him an engine many years ago that I knew nothing about besides it being a fresh build before sitting for about a year. He fought head gaskets on that thing for a while. Everything was new, it just ate the head gaskets for some reason.
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:32 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Thanks. I'm hopeful that's all it is. This is the first engine I've built and the first time installing head gaskets, so messing it up seems like a likely explanation. I've drained the coolant, hit the cylinder with compressed air and wd40. Anything else I can do to protect from rust?
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:39 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Doesnt seafoam protect from rust and might reach other areas that wd40 wont
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
quick tear it down. I believe I have a set of standard head gaskets in the garage.
I sure hope you don't have the bronco curse.
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74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
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crawlercreations
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
This is why I'll only use cometic head gaskets if they're made for the engine I'm building. No soft material to fail.
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:36 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Got the head taken off. Gasket was intact, but there was something that looked like scuffing on the underside of the #6 cylinder (the one that was barfing coolant). I managed to bang up the gasket during disassembly, so this could have been user error. Checked the flatness block with a straight edge and can see light under it. There appears to be a .002in dip in the block towards the top of the #6 cylinder, so I'm wondering if this is the source of my issues. The mating surface of the heads were milled, but the block wasn't. Pics of the block, gasket and head attached.
Anything else I can do or check before I put this back together and pray?
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:21 pm |
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landshark
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
I think they make thicker head gaskets that you can try.
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Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:58 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Got the engine back together with all new head gaskets. If I can get off work early enough the plan is to strap on my triple ply underpants and fire it. Really hoping it works this time. If anyone is in the neighborhood and wants to give it a look-see before I run it I'd be appreciative. Otherwise prayers to the diety of your choice are gratefully accepted.
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Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:20 pm |
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Strike2
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:34 am Posts: 808
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
I know the feeling the first motor start up was gut wrenching. I will light a candle for you
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Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:44 am |
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Justin
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Proof of life. Finished the transmission mount today.
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Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:37 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
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Kinder
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
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Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 am |
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Justin
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Thanks! Engine fired, but I'm having issues with some cylinders running very lean. Lean enough that I've had some of the header primaries glowing just running it in the garage. Current best guess is that the heads were shaved too much for stock pushrods. Going to do a compression test and see where things land. Also looking at bad coil, clogged injector, etc. Props to Gary for much excellent tech support! Hoping to get a new battery in today so that I can get that done.
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Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:27 am |
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Justin
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Contracted some very local, very cheap labor and got the crossmember installed. Pretty happy with how it came out.
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Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:29 am |
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Justin
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
This weekend was exhausting (#intentionaldadjoke). As long as everything was apart, I took the time to re-lego the exhaust to behind the tire so that I don't go deaf every time I drive it.
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:37 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Also, Gary came over today and made it run right. I'm doing a massive, full-on white guy happy dance. It's not pretty, so I'll share this video instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-7MXuQOyS4Since I'm not smarter than phpBB you all get a link instead of an embedded video.
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phyler
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Woot! Can't wait to see you driving it.
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:27 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Ahhh yeah!!!
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:19 am |
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Strike2
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
SWEET!! motor sounds great
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Kinder
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Justin's retroactive build thread
Nice, I’m a huge fan of running motors! Ha!
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Digger
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Love the video!
Good to see it running!
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:48 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Thanks, guys! Here's the real reason my rig has been down so long. Bet the new Bronco won't have this feature.
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Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:10 am |
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Jesus_man
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Auto pilot! Nice! Getting all tesla on us!
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Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:23 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Didn't have enough speed holes on the Bronco, so I made a bracket.
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Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:49 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Looks like a t-case mount? What is the going ratio of mph per hole these days?
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:50 am |
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Justin
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Coil pack mount. Thats the cross bar running between the shock towers. I believe its 3mph per hole, 2mph per sticker.
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Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:06 am |
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Strike2
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:34 am Posts: 808
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Looks at those pretty welds !!
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Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:06 am |
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Justin
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Re: Justin's retroactive build thread
Front end.....Monday?
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