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hockeydad4-22
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Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:11 pm Posts: 2378 Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
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never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
Spent the day under the dash trying to sort out some of the po' s crappy rats nest and discovered several wires has shorted out and burned up.... now it cranks but no spark.
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Try tomorrow and find some.more nasty shorts...
I really dislike electrial work... borderline hate it
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:13 pm |
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71 Broncman
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Joined: Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:09 am Posts: 132 Location: Woodland Park
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Re: never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
That is the very reason I had to rewire mine. The PO's son had installed a stereo and amp that looked like a dash fire waiting to happen. I went with a Centech harness and so far so good. I don't hate messing with wiring but chasing down gremlins can be a pain at times. Good luck, Mark
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:48 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
+1 on the centech harness. I installed that in the 74 and it works great. Electrical is a pain but is very simple when you know how it all works.
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74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:08 am |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
Look for a burnt ignition resistor wire. It's in the red-green wire that connects to the ignition switch.
I posted diagrams in the Good Tech Links thread.
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Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:59 pm |
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hockeydad4-22
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Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:11 pm Posts: 2378 Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
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Re: never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
Thanks guys. Could not get to the breakfast or to work on it. I spent all day with my boys..... moving office furnature. I acquired a complete mortgage companies furnishings (10 or more desks etc) worth of stuff. I need 3 or 4 . So did not get to work on the bronx yesterday the plan is for today once the owner gets up will be heading down to the shop to get starte. Thanks for the tips. We will check those first.
And if anyone needs any office furnature...desks and chairs, just let me know...cheap.... .maybe even cheaper than kmart bluelight specials. Perhaps even free if you love wiring or carbs
_________________ [color=#BFFF40]Greg
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:48 am |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
Also check the voltage on the coil. should have 12v when starting then once running should cut back to 9-10volts.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:19 am |
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hockeydad4-22
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Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:11 pm Posts: 2378 Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
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Re: never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
4 hrs and lots of cutting, splicing, soldering, heat shrinking and all the effected harness under the dash is replaced (and as a bonus, the spedo cluster is now clean, clear and bright - of course there is always something, the fuel gage is not working, I am sure it came lose as we fought the spedo back in). The whole under dash harnes is now in new plastic wiring looms so hopefully this never happens again.
Culprit of the lack of spark - PO has cut off one of the harnes conections at the ignition and replaced it with a bunch of individual push on connections. One of them came loose. If anyone has a section of harnes from under the hood with these connections I would much appreciate it if you would be so kind as to sell it to me.
The only thing we were not able to fix - the horn. That wire is completly gone. Yellow and green. Remenants and melted peices of plastic insulation are all that is left here and there. So that will be replaced completly on another date. Right now, I have had enough wire and wallowing on the floor under the dash.
New seats - thanks Plumdr. They look awesome and Andrew absolutly loves them.
Next on the list: * Roll cage with harness bar * Rear bumper with tire carrier (I will check the schedule and make sure the 29th works) * Horn.... and some more interior lighting * Fabricate a new center console (the old wood boxx will not longer fit between the seats) * And of course - I think the very first thing - attack that carb.
Thanks all for the tips and help.
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:07 am |
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Entourage
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:45 pm Posts: 3275 Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Re: never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
Greg - the bumper build is at your house so I think you can change the schedule. I thought you stated you were out of town the 15th and 22nd, so we went the 29th. Let us know if there is a conflict.
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:43 am |
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hockeydad4-22
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Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:11 pm Posts: 2378 Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
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Re: never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
I will check tonight and post in the am to let you all know. Off hand I thing that works.
I am so looking forward to that build.
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:03 pm |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
hockeydad, i think I have the section of the harness you need, i'll dig through my pile of junk and see, if not 71UGL might have it out of a tub we pulled a couple of weeks ago.
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:06 pm |
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Kinder
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Re: never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
Here is the section I have, it plugs into the ignition unit, yours if you need it.
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:11 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
That doesn't look a stock ign sw connector.
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:43 pm |
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hockeydad4-22
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Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:11 pm Posts: 2378 Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
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Re: never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
Thanks Kinder,
I will look at what we have but right off hand, I do not think that is what we have. Off hand I want ot say we have different color wires.
On another note - I will need to schedule the bumper build for January 22. I will be in Aspen for a hockey game on the 29th. I will post up a thread in the staging area section.
On the wiring, as I said, once the sun comes up and I can step away from my desk for a few minutes I will check it.
Thanks
_________________ [color=#BFFF40]Greg
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Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:52 am |
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Kinder
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Re: never mind the carp.... grrrr wiring
Viper, I doesn't look like what I have in my truck, but the wires are the same in color and combo. Orange (maybe use to be red), green w/red strip or dash, and two yellow. Hockeydad, if that isn't the connector I may still have what you need since I have most of the loom.
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Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:26 am |
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