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cpldavis37
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Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:45 pm Posts: 357 Location: Thornton, Co
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351 EFI swap is a go.
Here we go, this is way above my level, but I am going to give it a go. Here is the plan: 94 roller 351 Gt40 heads Lightning lower intake Explorer upper intake Explorer ecu Coil set up
That's the very basics I know there is a lot to it. I have been following a couple of builds on classic broncos and I am copying them. Wish me luck. Here is a pic of my new old 351 that I just bought.
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_________________ TJ "Everyone suspects himself of at least one of the cardinal virtues, and this is mine: I am one of the few honest people I have ever known." F. Scott Fitzgerald 1974 Ford Bronco 3 1/2 inch James Duff lift ,2 inch body lift, 351w Explorer EFI, Viper built c4, Viper built Dana 20 with wildhorses twin stick, Kinder built Dana 44 with 4.56 gears disc brakes aussie locker and knuckle over conversion, Kinder built 9 inch with grizzly locker 31 spline axles and 4.56 gear
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Tue May 13, 2014 12:16 pm |
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Kinder
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
Woohoo!
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Tue May 13, 2014 12:22 pm |
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D&D72
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
Still searching for the "LIKE" button
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Tue May 13, 2014 1:44 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
Following with much interest
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Tue May 13, 2014 3:53 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
I'll be watching. Good luck, sounds like a great set up! I've got everything ready for a 351, just need time & money for a rebuild.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Tue May 13, 2014 5:14 pm |
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Eck
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
Didn't do quite the swap you are planning, but if you've got any questions, I just went through this. Good luck. Looking forward to seeing the progress.
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Tue May 13, 2014 5:36 pm |
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Digger
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
Cool!
Since you're in Thornton, feel free to drop by if you need to measure anything or check clearances before installing. I have a '94 351W roller as well.
I'm at 128th and Quebec.
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
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Tue May 13, 2014 8:51 pm |
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EFI Guy
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
Awesome!
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Tue May 13, 2014 9:28 pm |
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Justin
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
Definitely following this one. Your engine setup is exactly what I want to go to at some point. Unless Kirk finds a magic way to quiet down his 4bt, then I want that.
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Tue May 13, 2014 9:39 pm |
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Kinder
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
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Wed May 14, 2014 6:06 am |
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cpldavis37
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Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:45 pm Posts: 357 Location: Thornton, Co
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
Digger I am also at 128 and Quebec. I am surprised I have never run into you.
_________________ TJ "Everyone suspects himself of at least one of the cardinal virtues, and this is mine: I am one of the few honest people I have ever known." F. Scott Fitzgerald 1974 Ford Bronco 3 1/2 inch James Duff lift ,2 inch body lift, 351w Explorer EFI, Viper built c4, Viper built Dana 20 with wildhorses twin stick, Kinder built Dana 44 with 4.56 gears disc brakes aussie locker and knuckle over conversion, Kinder built 9 inch with grizzly locker 31 spline axles and 4.56 gear
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Wed May 14, 2014 10:47 am |
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cpldavis37
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
This will be a slow process, but I will keep this thread up to date.
_________________ TJ "Everyone suspects himself of at least one of the cardinal virtues, and this is mine: I am one of the few honest people I have ever known." F. Scott Fitzgerald 1974 Ford Bronco 3 1/2 inch James Duff lift ,2 inch body lift, 351w Explorer EFI, Viper built c4, Viper built Dana 20 with wildhorses twin stick, Kinder built Dana 44 with 4.56 gears disc brakes aussie locker and knuckle over conversion, Kinder built 9 inch with grizzly locker 31 spline axles and 4.56 gear
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ZOSO
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
Hey i drive right by 128th n quebec a lot.
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74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Wed May 14, 2014 7:07 pm |
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cpldavis37
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
I have been reading about the explorer cam sensor. What is the advantage of using the coils. Can I use a 96 or new distributor with obd2 with an explorer ecu? If you can it seems easier rather then getting a collar fabricated for the cam sensor and figuring out how to hold the thing down. I am going to the junkyard soon so I want to figure out exactly what to pull.
_________________ TJ "Everyone suspects himself of at least one of the cardinal virtues, and this is mine: I am one of the few honest people I have ever known." F. Scott Fitzgerald 1974 Ford Bronco 3 1/2 inch James Duff lift ,2 inch body lift, 351w Explorer EFI, Viper built c4, Viper built Dana 20 with wildhorses twin stick, Kinder built Dana 44 with 4.56 gears disc brakes aussie locker and knuckle over conversion, Kinder built 9 inch with grizzly locker 31 spline axles and 4.56 gear
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Thu May 15, 2014 3:06 pm |
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EFI Guy
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
There is no way to run a distributor and have the PCM control it with the Explorer PCM. The coil pack setup is a hotter spark, more reliable, and more accurate than a typical distributor. The only downside is the need to fabricate the collar for a 351.
I do have some detailed blue prints to make one, which can probably just be done on any lathe. I was quoted $100 each to have them made unless I purchased a bunch of them. A few guys have had them made for around $75. Recent discussions lead me to believe that someone else may start selling them on CB in the $50 range. So, they may even hit production before your engine is done.
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Thu May 15, 2014 6:00 pm |
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cpldavis37
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
That answers that question. When I go to the yard I will get the coil setup. Thanks
_________________ TJ "Everyone suspects himself of at least one of the cardinal virtues, and this is mine: I am one of the few honest people I have ever known." F. Scott Fitzgerald 1974 Ford Bronco 3 1/2 inch James Duff lift ,2 inch body lift, 351w Explorer EFI, Viper built c4, Viper built Dana 20 with wildhorses twin stick, Kinder built Dana 44 with 4.56 gears disc brakes aussie locker and knuckle over conversion, Kinder built 9 inch with grizzly locker 31 spline axles and 4.56 gear
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Thu May 15, 2014 6:13 pm |
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EFI Guy
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
I would hold off on purchasing coil packs for now as well. I may have a better solution than the Explorer coil packs, but I want to get some more testing miles on them before I give anyone the green light to run them. I would try to find the 3.8 cam sensor while you're there though.
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Thu May 15, 2014 7:31 pm |
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cpldavis37
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
I will look for one. Thanks
_________________ TJ "Everyone suspects himself of at least one of the cardinal virtues, and this is mine: I am one of the few honest people I have ever known." F. Scott Fitzgerald 1974 Ford Bronco 3 1/2 inch James Duff lift ,2 inch body lift, 351w Explorer EFI, Viper built c4, Viper built Dana 20 with wildhorses twin stick, Kinder built Dana 44 with 4.56 gears disc brakes aussie locker and knuckle over conversion, Kinder built 9 inch with grizzly locker 31 spline axles and 4.56 gear
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Thu May 15, 2014 7:56 pm |
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cpldavis37
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Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:45 pm Posts: 357 Location: Thornton, Co
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
Just bought a gt40 lower from a lightning off of ebay. These are getting hard to find.
_________________ TJ "Everyone suspects himself of at least one of the cardinal virtues, and this is mine: I am one of the few honest people I have ever known." F. Scott Fitzgerald 1974 Ford Bronco 3 1/2 inch James Duff lift ,2 inch body lift, 351w Explorer EFI, Viper built c4, Viper built Dana 20 with wildhorses twin stick, Kinder built Dana 44 with 4.56 gears disc brakes aussie locker and knuckle over conversion, Kinder built 9 inch with grizzly locker 31 spline axles and 4.56 gear
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Gunnibronco
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
Nice. I stashed one away a couple years ago.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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landshark
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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Tue May 27, 2014 8:34 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Tue May 27, 2014 8:35 pm |
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cpldavis37
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
I would be in let me know
_________________ TJ "Everyone suspects himself of at least one of the cardinal virtues, and this is mine: I am one of the few honest people I have ever known." F. Scott Fitzgerald 1974 Ford Bronco 3 1/2 inch James Duff lift ,2 inch body lift, 351w Explorer EFI, Viper built c4, Viper built Dana 20 with wildhorses twin stick, Kinder built Dana 44 with 4.56 gears disc brakes aussie locker and knuckle over conversion, Kinder built 9 inch with grizzly locker 31 spline axles and 4.56 gear
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Tue May 27, 2014 9:04 pm |
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EFI Guy
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
I want 2 for myself as well. So I'll check to see if the original designer ever decided to have a batch ran off or not. If not, let's see what your guy says. I can get them for a decent price, but only if I buy 50 of em.
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
+4 for me.
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Rox Crusher
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
Maybe he could make the tall hold-down clamp too ?
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Wed May 28, 2014 4:32 am |
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Kinder
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
I'd be in for one as well.
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Wed May 28, 2014 7:31 am |
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landshark
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
ok i just need the detailed schematics and i can run them over during lunch one day.
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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D&D72
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
I can also ask Mike (777mech) he has that spiffy new mill he's playing with.
_________________ That guy John.... whatta Jerk.
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Wed May 28, 2014 4:21 pm |
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D&D72
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Re: 351 EFI swap is a go.
Heads up. I have a couple being cranked out now. If they pass the muster for EFI GUY were in like flynn for cheap!
_________________ That guy John.... whatta Jerk.
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