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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby ZOSO » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:27 am

Viperwolf1 wrote:Damn. Am I going to be the only one in Moab without any major mods since last year? I feel like I'll be hanging out on the bunny slopes with Shawn.



Thats not true. You did hydroboost. Thats a big change.
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby Rox Crusher » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:17 am

Viperwolf1 wrote:Damn. Am I going to be the only one in Moab without any major mods since last year? I feel like I'll be hanging out on the bunny slopes with Shawn.


I have my pistol in hand but haven't cocked it just yet.

Hoping to pull the trigger early next week.

Even the bunny hills are fun at Moab !
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby ZOSO » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:18 am

Rox Crusher wrote:
Viperwolf1 wrote:Damn. Am I going to be the only one in Moab without any major mods since last year? I feel like I'll be hanging out on the bunny slopes with Shawn.


I have my pistol in hand but haven't cocked it just yet.

Hoping to pull the trigger early next week.

Even the bunny hills are fun at Moab !



Gears n lockers?
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby Gregg » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:08 am

Viperwolf1 wrote:Damn. Am I going to be the only one in Moab without any major mods since last year? I feel like I'll be hanging out on the bunny slopes with Shawn.


Man....I'm sure gonna miss you.
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby Viperwolf1 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:54 pm

ZOSO wrote:
Viperwolf1 wrote:Damn. Am I going to be the only one in Moab without any major mods since last year? I feel like I'll be hanging out on the bunny slopes with Shawn.



Thats not true. You did hydroboost. Thats a big change.


Right, and more lift in the front, extended the wheelbase and fixed some things. I was just trying to give Shawn a false hope that his Bronco was just as capable as mine. You know, trying to build up his confidence. It might have come out wrong. shrug
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby ZOSO » Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:33 am

He's better off than Jeff was with the locker. And Jeff made everything he tried but that one hill the first day on fins n things.
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby Gregg » Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:59 am

You might not know this... but I'm an expert at living my life with false hope..."Someday, just someday these Bronco guys will respect me"...
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby landshark » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:18 pm

So guess I should update this thread with my ZF-5 install behind the 400. For full details you can find the thread here:

[url="http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228988"]http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228988[/url]

But heres the cliff notes :)

Decided I had enough of the NP435 and not only wanted overdrive but something that was a little more drivable. Decided to go with the ZF-5 behind a Ford 400. A few others have had great success with this conversion as the bellhousing on the 460 ZF-5 matches the 351m/400 engine block.

Although the ZF- will bolt up to the engine the input shaft is a bit too long causing the throwout bearing to fall off the input shaft and not allowing good pressure/clutch disk engagement. To solve this problem I had a spacer made that mounts to the front of the flywheel to the crankshaft and spaces everything back to allow good clutch/bearing engagement.

Anyway, here is the play by play...

Length of the 460 version of the zf-5 is 26.25"

I threw it in back of the Bronco and hauled it home

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Custom spacer

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Pulling out the bag of hammers...

Have everything ready to go to pull the trans and TC however after taking a look I think I will just drop the exhaust to get it out of the way.. anyway quit for the night it was getting cold out there.

Old stuff coming out.. nothing exciting...

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ahhh so much better...

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ZF-5 and NP435 side by side

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Flywheel and spacer fitment.

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Back of the engine - pretty clean!

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Spacer on the end of the crankshaft

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Flywheel wheel and spacer mounted

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ZF-5 in place, clears!

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Getting the Dana20 ready for the zf-5 to D20 adpater.

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Zf-5 mated to the Dana20 with the adapter

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Twin sticks in! I must have mounted them 25 times to get them to fit right, had to bend, heat, cut and more to get them to work - but work beautifully now!

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Rear output of the Dana20 - stepped up to a 1350 driveshaft

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Working on the clutch linkage - going with a hydro clutch rather than a mechanical.

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Clutch reservoir in place.

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Clutch linkage - ended up with a threaded piece in the middle to be able to adjust if needed.

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Fabbing up my transmission crossmember

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Painted!

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mounted

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Had a bit of an issue finding a starter.. being a bit of a bone head finally tried the stock 400 starter and wouldn't you know.. its works! So found a mini 400/460 starter and got it mounted up.

Still need some final pictures and video, which hopefully I will have here soon but so far its working great, love the ZF-5.. just need to fab up a floor!
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby landshark » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:18 pm

And.. finally got done with my suspensino fix/upgrade.

Got the Duff arms mounted, frame plated, Diff cover installed, new steering linkage / TRE's and lots of other stuff.

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Heres my 7 bay garage where I work on the Bronco - fun times!

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I was hoping that I could use the Bilstein 7100's I already had but after some measurements they were just too short. Ordered up some new 14" short body 7100's. I might be able to move the 12" Bilstein to the rear which would be fantastic. I will do some measurements when I remove em.

Anyway - going to re-install the air system, weld up the radius arm mounts, plates I added to re-enforce the frame and get the DOM supports for the upper shock mounts done this week.
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby Justin » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:11 pm

Im mounting 12" bilsteins. They're pretty long, and will be up in the wheel well. Not sure if my solution will work of EB width axles, but I can make you some hoops if you want to try it.
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby landshark » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:18 pm

Justin wrote:Im mounting 12" bilsteins. They're pretty long, and will be up in the wheel well. Not sure if my solution will work of EB width axles, but I can make you some hoops if you want to try it.


I appreciate it.. i have the duff hoops and already ordered the shocks. I think I will be ok - besides the extra cash iam spending on the shocks. I think I might be able to move the old ones to the rear and then sell the 5150's I currently have and recoup some of my money.

With the axle just hanging off the coils I was already maxed out on the shocks at 26.5" (If I remember correctly) so the new ones should be perfect for my setup once I add the 2x2 tube to limit up travel.
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby Justin » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:28 pm

Gotcha, that should make a difference. Sounds like a good plan.
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby ZOSO » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:46 pm

Looks good Chris. But where are the flex pix?
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby landshark » Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:15 pm

Waiting on shocks and still need to weld stuff up ;)
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby landshark » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:51 pm

Fabbing up my tunnel cover to cover up the holes cut into the floor board for the ZF-5 and transfer case.

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got to use my shears! first time in 5 years...

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next up is to cut out the shift areas and make the bends. Next I will take it to Line-x to see if they will shoot it to match the floor in the bronco..
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby landshark » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:04 pm

got the floor patch in with the shift boots, works pretty good but will be taking the floor piece into line x to match the floor and help the heat and noise.

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On the lookout for a bigger shift boot, will have to keep my eye out at the boneyard
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby Justin » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:21 pm

Sweet, that looks great! Too bad it needs Line-X, it's kinda pretty.
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby landshark » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:31 pm

Justin wrote:Sweet, that looks great! Too bad it needs Line-X, it's kinda pretty.


thanks, i just want to cut down on the road noise and heat... plus its kind of a non-slip and easy to clean
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby landshark » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:11 pm

Got the tunnel cover done.. like the way it turned out!

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I might paint the screws eventually but kind of like the "rivet" look

It will look like the rest of the floor very soon :)
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby Jesus_man » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:22 pm

Yeah, good thing it's going to dusty Moab to make it match! Looks great. Nice piece there!
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby landshark » Wed May 07, 2014 10:14 am

Opps.. too much fun in Moab ;)

Seems like the ZF changed the angle of the engine just enough to grab my fan shroud and eat the radiator..

Luck was with me as I found used radiator out of a 60s or 70s AMC (Maybe from a jeep wagoneer or something?) in the parts pile of a 4x4 shop in town, only radiator they had and unbelievable I got it to fit - bonus that the bronco mounts even worked. Made the repair on the trail and continued on - Matter of fact I ran Poison spider the next day...

I will have to take a picture next week when I pull it to put a new one in but its been patched twice (2 holes in it), it will be going on the garage wall as a "spare" :)

I will have to see if others have pictures of the actual carnage as someone took the fan to use as art...

anyway just ordered a new replacement from Summit and will be running a smaller spacer and clutch fan from now on...

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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby D&D72 » Wed May 07, 2014 12:10 pm

Tell us that happened on carnage!
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby landshark » Wed May 07, 2014 7:44 pm

just the fan and radiator.. ordered a new radiator today from Summit should be here by Friday :)
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby landshark » Wed May 14, 2014 9:08 pm

So a quick update. Turned out the radiator was from Summit and cost $159 - shipped.. so replaced it with the exact same one.

While i had it out I took advantage of the extra space did some belt tightening, fixed my power steering lines running them slightly better and then installed a clutch fan that I have had hanging on the wall for about a year thanks to Zoso. So far so good, now I have to make a fan shroud which shouldn't' be too hard.

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Heres the radiator I used - Jeremy and I found it besides a 4x4 shop in Moab.. its out of a 87 CJ-7

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New radiator in...

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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby Jesus_man » Wed May 14, 2014 11:55 pm

*cool* (tongue in cheek)
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby Kinder » Thu May 15, 2014 5:44 am

On Track has some DIY shroud pieces on the shelf, I didn't check prices, but nice to have a local source.
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby Justin » Thu May 15, 2014 8:50 am

I didn't know that. What pieces do they have? I've been contemplating making my own.
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby landshark » Thu May 15, 2014 10:02 am

Cool will run over there and check them out. Was going to pick up some aluminum and have it tig welded
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby Kinder » Thu May 15, 2014 12:01 pm

I think they have most of the pieces for a simple shroud.
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Re: Landsharks 69er Bought not built project

Postby landshark » Fri May 16, 2014 7:04 am

kinder wrote:I think they have most of the pieces for a simple shroud.


Iam going to head over there at lunch thanks.
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