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B.O.B.
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Charcoal canister setup
So I think my fuel pump is dead, don't know for sure but that seems the case. I always seem to have a lot pressure built up after driving it. I can always hear it hissing when I stop. What is a good set up for a charcoal canister? What kind should I use? How would I plumb one in to my setup? I do have a aftermarket fuel tank but I don't have any extra vent lines coming out of it. Can I rig something that goes to the filler neck or should I drill another hole in the tank? Is all this pressure over working my pump possibly causing it to fail?
Any input would be appreciated.
_________________ 71' bronco, np435 w/trailbanger, 302 efi, 35" KM3 on 17x9 Fuel Anza, warn xd9000i, cage arms, 5" lift
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Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:49 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Re: Charcoal canister setup
Howdy Bob,
I would say you found your problem.
If your tank isn't vented somehow it over works the pump.
I don't recall your set up but a lot of guys plumb a vent line into the fuel return line.
I think the 77 style vent system is the best / easiest. It is simply a vent line from the tank, an inline roll-over check valve, and the rectangular style canister mounted to the firewall.
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:28 am |
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Moab Mike
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Re: Charcoal canister setup
Before you pull the pump I would try running it with an alternate 12V power source.
What is your fuel pressure when your vehicle is running? Do you have any obstacles the fuel pump has to overcome in your fuel system?
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Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:54 am |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: Charcoal canister setup
My tank didn't have any extra barbs. I added a barb to the filler neck. Drilled & tapped for a npt x barb brass connector, then added a little solder. Worked great. I just used a tank vent/check valve, no charcoal cannister, but I don't have emissions or park indoors, so smell isn't a problem. You can smell the gas sometimes on hot days. Especially when you first start it up.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:15 am |
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B.O.B.
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Re: Charcoal canister setup
On a charcoal set up, you have a line com the tank to the canister. Now do you need a line to the intake and then another to the return line in case fuel gets in.
What's a good donor vehicle for a charcoal canister?
_________________ 71' bronco, np435 w/trailbanger, 302 efi, 35" KM3 on 17x9 Fuel Anza, warn xd9000i, cage arms, 5" lift
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Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:57 pm |
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landshark
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Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 3942 Location: Denver, Wash Park Area
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Re: Charcoal canister setup
Any early 90's bronco, f150, ranger, some cars. If you standing at the open hood the canister is low left front near the inner fender battery and engine. At least on bronco and f150's. They are usually black have two mushroom cap breathers and two nipples.
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:27 pm |
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landshark
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Re: Charcoal canister setup
That's what Iam using on both my broncos
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:28 pm |
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B.O.B.
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Re: Charcoal canister setup
Still doing some research and found this diagram on cb.com http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showth ... t=charcoalMy question is: Where would I hook my vacuum line to the throttlebody?
_________________ 71' bronco, np435 w/trailbanger, 302 efi, 35" KM3 on 17x9 Fuel Anza, warn xd9000i, cage arms, 5" lift
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Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:38 pm |
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B.O.B.
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Do you have to vent the charcoal canister to the manifold or can you just run a vent line to the canister and nothing else?
_________________ 71' bronco, np435 w/trailbanger, 302 efi, 35" KM3 on 17x9 Fuel Anza, warn xd9000i, cage arms, 5" lift
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Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:57 pm |
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