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Moab Mike
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Lift Kits 101
In the market for a 3 1/2" lift kit. Who makes/sells the best and why do you think so. In my past experience and not knowing any better, I bought JBG's 3/12" kit with 5 pack rear leaf's. It rides like a forklift. I greatly value your opinion.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:31 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Re: Lift Kits 101
I can say that I really like the WH lift on mine.
It's the one you so kindly helped me install which I really appreciate.
To me it is a great compromise between good flexibility on the trail and great road manners.
When we got home from Holy Cross I took Landshark's advice and put some rubber hose in the liftgate latches and now the hard top doesn't rattle at all. The only remaining rattle is from the windows if the doors.
With it being so quiet now, I can really get a better feel for ride quality which I think is near perfect.
The only thing I might caution is to consider 4.5" coils up front as mine has the slightest of front rake to the stance and I don't even have a winch or heavy bumper up front.
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:52 pm |
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Dirtheadz
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Re: Lift Kits 101
x2 on the 4.5" height, progressive coils are great, thin multiple leaf (11) packs are awesome, but that being said its a 92" wheelbase wheeler. Unless you get some high end suspension it's not going to ride like a duramax with torsion bars (i drive a Dodge 2500, lol). Just my $.02 Hell my Bronco isn't even driving yet (but its oh so close)
_________________ !!! Being original is a blueprint for followers !!!
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:42 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: Lift Kits 101
Mike, what's your overall intent for the Bronco this stuff will be going in to?
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:56 pm |
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Moab Mike
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Re: Lift Kits 101
Multipurpose, I want a capable rig that I can use as a daily driver if I deem fit. I want 35" tires as a minimum but will most likely run 37". I will eventually be installing FW axles (thanks to Gunnibronco) but for now just the stock D44 and 9". Current axles have 4:11 gears. Drive train will include a stock 302 converted to EFI and a Viperbuilt C4.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:12 pm |
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landshark
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Lift Kits 101
Good Shocks really help the ride quality and as mentioned 11 pack leafs are a must. Coils are cheap but some stiffer than others. If I had to rate coils:
JBG's deavers are probably the softest but best riding for a 302 paired with good shocks.
Duffs progressive coils are probably middle of the road seem to work well with my rig but mines a pig and I have been working on my shock valving.
Wild horses and the other vendors are probably a bit stiffer still but honestly I have not had very much exposure to them. I know some offer different options for spring rates.
I vote custom 3.5" rear 4.5" front and piece together the best of each that suits your build and rig. Also, usually the vendors will have specials on leafs and other lift parts near Xmas.
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:32 pm |
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Moab Mike
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Re: Lift Kits 101
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:32 pm |
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ZOSO
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Re: Lift Kits 101
I really like the ride on landsharks duff's with his custom valved bilsteins. I will say one thing a lot depends on the shocks. My bronco rides amazing with the WH coils and leafs. I have rs9000's on it.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:38 pm |
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ZOSO
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Re: Lift Kits 101
That kit looks good mike but i'd get 3.5" rear leafs. The problem with WH 3.5" lifts is the front coils sag.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:40 pm |
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ZOSO
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Re: Lift Kits 101
One other thing I was wanting to do and i still might to the blue bronco is run adjustable upper ciol buckets and a 5.5" spring. The longer springs travel better and the adjustable mount will allow you to dial in the ride height.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:48 pm |
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Moab Mike
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Re: Lift Kits 101
So I had Rox Crusher suggest at Holy Cross 4 1/2" coils and 3 1/2" rear leafs. This seems to be the general consensus.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:53 pm |
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Justin
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I was extremely happy with my old duffs progressive coils. Bilstein 7100s are spendy, but the ability to custom tune them yourself is nice.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:57 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Re: Lift Kits 101
Sounds like I should consider shocks
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:33 pm |
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ZOSO
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Re: Lift Kits 101
Yea Jeff, shocks will make a big difference in ride quality.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:51 pm |
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Kinder
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Re: Lift Kits 101
I'm with Chris on the Deaver coils, I'm running a set of their linear coils on BSD and love the ride. Of course I've got an extra 350 lbs over the axle.
_________________ Best to Date MPG: 26.6
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:57 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: Lift Kits 101
+1 on good shocks. A world of improvement, and I haven't even installed the rears.
7100s up front & 5125s in back (soon)
If you are going to long arms, I'd get the adjustable coil buckets. You can easily out flex 3.5" springs with long arms.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:07 pm |
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Moab Mike
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Re: Lift Kits 101
So here's the million dollar question.
Buy a lift kit or piece something together using the best parts?
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:14 pm |
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Kinder
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Re: Lift Kits 101
Kit is the easy way out.
_________________ Best to Date MPG: 26.6
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:23 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Lift Kits 101
If you're me, you piece it together finding progressively more complicated parts until your truck is on jack stands for a year.
Or you could buy a kit.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:03 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: Lift Kits 101
I like to slowly acquire parts each year at the swap meet and then constantly move them around the garage telling myself I'll get around to installing them one day. So my vote is for piece it together.
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:56 pm |
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Moab Mike
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Re: Lift Kits 101
So maybe this kit with 4 1/2" Dever springs ($150) from JBG? http://www.wildhorses4x4.com/product/Pr ... teinShocks
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:52 am |
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ZOSO
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Re: Lift Kits 101
I like the James duff monster lifts. But at 2300 they are a bit $$$$
I'd piece one together.
WH 4.5 coils/5.5 coils and adjustable upper buckets WH 3.5 11 leaf duff radius arms WH inboard rear shock mount/ duffs long travel rear shock hoop any front shock hoops 7100's front and rear.
+ all the other things like brake hoses and cables.
On another note I run deavers on my 79 and they ride very nice. Im not sure how they ride on the EB tho. Doing some research you can find all the spring rates of each spring.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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ZOSO
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Re: Lift Kits 101
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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BroncoMasochist
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Re: Lift Kits 101
I have the Duff 3.5. It was the soft ride rear leafs, and progressive front coils that sold it for me. Just like the others said. So far I have not been disappointed.
_________________ .....because the pleasure of owning a Bronco comes with the pain of owning a Bronco.
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:03 am |
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Justin
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:55 am |
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ZOSO
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Re: Lift Kits 101
Last I heard the bloody knuckle were hard to get as he doesnt make em very often.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:51 pm |
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Kinder
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Re: Lift Kits 101
I love my Duff arms, the travel and handling are worth the price.
_________________ Best to Date MPG: 26.6
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:17 pm |
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B.O.B.
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Re: Lift Kits 101
I've got the old cage arms and I love those. Definitely adding those made my ride a lot softer and more comfortable.
_________________ 71' bronco, np435 w/trailbanger, 302 efi, 35" KM3 on 17x9 Fuel Anza, warn xd9000i, cage arms, 5" lift
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Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:17 am |
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ZOSO
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Re: Lift Kits 101
So Mike whats the verdict? Did you decide on parts?
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:32 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: Lift Kits 101
He's waiting for Black Friday. I'm certain of it.
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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