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Unaweep
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Should I change the oil?
I'm wondering if I should change the oil in my Bronco? The facts: Bought it fall 2013, had been sitting for 10 years with the oil. Last registration renewal 2003. Engine has between 70,000-145,000 miles on it... Engine has either an exhaust leak or something else ticking... I've only put 500-800 miles on it (speedometer doesn't work) and probably only will put 1000 miles on it this winter. Oil looks good on dip stick, oil look crappy and black shooting out the exhaust. I'd like to keep the oil in it for Moab next spring. I've taken it to the car wash 3x and already gotten rid of the outside engine oil, it doesn't smoke so much going around the neighborhood. The engine oil probably wants to now stay in the engine. Should I change it now or wait until after the CCB Moab trip? J.E.
_________________ 1969 Ford Bronco with: 351W, Q-Jet, ARB front locker, 3" Suspension lift, NP435 transmission, 33" Goodyear's, roll cage, body rough.
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: Should I change the oil?
If it's good on the stick it's probably okay, there are a couple of oil stabilizers on the market if you want to throw a bottle of that at it.
You should know I'm not a fan of hasty oil changes, I run all my stuff for 7500 miles.
_________________ Best to Date MPG: 26.6
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Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:59 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Should I change the oil?
Um did you change it when you first got it? if not then yes change it. otherwise I dont see a need.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:16 pm |
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kbank6
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Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:00 pm Posts: 306 Location: Greeley, CO
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Re: Should I change the oil?
Could always take a oil sample to have anylized. I think they cost around 10 to 15 dollars and it would give you an idea of the condition of your engine. Personally, oil and filters are cheap.
_________________ 73 Ranger (Holy Crap, replacing the door post is so much fun!)
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Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:56 pm |
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Unaweep
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Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:02 pm Posts: 291 Location: Grand Junction, Co.
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Re: Should I change the oil?
_________________ 1969 Ford Bronco with: 351W, Q-Jet, ARB front locker, 3" Suspension lift, NP435 transmission, 33" Goodyear's, roll cage, body rough.
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:39 am |
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ZOSO
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Re: Should I change the oil?
Like Kevin said oil and a filter are cheap. I would have changed it even before I started it. Cheap insurance.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:48 am |
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Justin
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Re: Should I change the oil?
x3. Oil is way cheaper than an engine. Seems like the peace of mind would be worth the $25 it'll cost you.
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:53 am |
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mickphatmac
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Re: Should I change the oil?
That's like asking..."Should I change my underwear" after a weekend hunting trip???
_________________ 1968 3.5" Lift on 31's Front serpentine belt ViperBuilt 4x4x2 PS C4 '66 Speedo '66 Horn Button- STROPPE goodies: Steering Wheel, Roll Bar, Cactus Smasher SOLD :(1972 Explorer Sport - '66 Eyebrow Grill - '66 Speedometer - Stroppe Steering Wheel - Stroppe RollBar - ViperBuilt C4
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:02 am |
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Unaweep
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Re: Should I change the oil?
_________________ 1969 Ford Bronco with: 351W, Q-Jet, ARB front locker, 3" Suspension lift, NP435 transmission, 33" Goodyear's, roll cage, body rough.
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:26 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Re: Should I change the oil?
If your really curious about the condition of your engine, the oil sample test could help you there, in terms of metal particle count, etc............but changing the oil is so inexpensive
Maybe you want to consider doing both
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:56 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Should I change the oil?
I've done a couple of oil tests just for fun. It's a really interesting look at the metallurgy of your engine. I used these guys: http://www.blackstone-labs.com/
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:36 pm |
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Unaweep
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Re: Should I change the oil?
_________________ 1969 Ford Bronco with: 351W, Q-Jet, ARB front locker, 3" Suspension lift, NP435 transmission, 33" Goodyear's, roll cage, body rough.
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:14 pm |
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Unaweep
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Re: Should I change the oil?
_________________ 1969 Ford Bronco with: 351W, Q-Jet, ARB front locker, 3" Suspension lift, NP435 transmission, 33" Goodyear's, roll cage, body rough.
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Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:37 pm |
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Unaweep
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Re: Should I change the oil?
Update: Still thinking about changing the oil, but can't decide if regular or synthetic is best for this engine. I bought the Bronco in 2012, it had sat for at least 10 years.
I did take a sample and send off for the report about a year ago, not sure where the report is now...still looking for it in its unopened envelope.
One factor is what type of rear end seal does this motor have: rope or one piece synthetic? We going to have to take a look before any decisions are made...
_________________ 1969 Ford Bronco with: 351W, Q-Jet, ARB front locker, 3" Suspension lift, NP435 transmission, 33" Goodyear's, roll cage, body rough.
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Justin
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Re: Should I change the oil?
Regular is fine. If you want to go fancy, I will run Motul 8100 5w40 in the Audi, but that's ridiculous overkill for these engines. If you're really interested, go do some reading at bobistheoilguy.com.
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Should I change the oil?
I'd vote just change the oil. But it doesn't hurt to sample it. The trouble with that is that you really need to sample several times to get a baseline for your engine. This is what Blackstone told me several years ago when I was sending in samples for my superduty. It had elevated levels of something, but they said there was no cause for concern until we establish a baseline.
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Unaweep
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Re: Should I change the oil?
_________________ 1969 Ford Bronco with: 351W, Q-Jet, ARB front locker, 3" Suspension lift, NP435 transmission, 33" Goodyear's, roll cage, body rough.
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Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:05 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Should I change the oil?
Stop being so cheap and change the oil already. It's 13yrs old. I wouldnt care what the test says. Either cheap insurance and change it or possibly pay for it later with a new engine.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:31 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Should I change the oil?
I've been trying to figure out if this is a real thread or if Unaweep is having fun with us. Not that I ever thought of doing anything similar.
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:15 am |
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landshark
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Should I change the oil?
I agree just throw in some oil. These engines don't care, I am running regular oil in a stock 302 in my 72 and it had been sitting for over 12 years outside. Runs great.
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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