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HIX
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:38 pm Posts: 174 Location: Wheat Ridge Colorado
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Toy hauler conversion
Any of you guys used these people in the springs to make a popup more suitable for dispersed camping? http://toyhaulerconversions.com I am looking at picking up a decent used pup and was going to do a th conversion on it but with three young kids its looking like I wont have the time to do it myself
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Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:54 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Toy hauler conversion
No, but it'd be interesting to see what the price is. I know there was a recent thread on CO4x4 about this and I wonder if you couldn't get a better deal asking one of the off-road fab shops to do it for you. I cannot find that thread for the life of me!
It seems like they address the main issues. Ground Clearance being a big one. But I might be inclined to make it a tandem axle at the same time. That should smooth out the ride and help preserve the camper, and also make it more stable to pull. The issue I see with this is the increase in tongue weight, which may be too much for most 1/2ton trucks or lighter.
Looking again at their pricing page, I don't like those style of couplers as they are prone to failure. I'd ask for a bull-dog style.
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Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:13 am |
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JGZ
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:20 pm Posts: 393 Location: Pueblo West
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Re: Toy hauler conversion
A buddy of mine has done a few of these.Call Brian at lil B's custom fab.303-475-1035.He's in Englewood.
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Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:13 am |
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HIX
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:38 pm Posts: 174 Location: Wheat Ridge Colorado
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Re: Toy hauler conversion
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Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:43 am |
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HIX
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:38 pm Posts: 174 Location: Wheat Ridge Colorado
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Re: Toy hauler conversion
Since the most I would be putting on the deck is bikes and other debris then the tongue weight for my pop up should be around 350 so I can easily tow it with expedition, fronttier or on rare occasions the bronco Since it has a brake controller.
People say you can't tow with an early bronco... But if a RAV4, bronco 2, explorer sport and an Isuzu amigo can tow 3500 pounds my v8 zf5 donkey can too once I get the front discs put on.
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Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:03 am |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: Toy hauler conversion
I tow a lot with BSD (not a fair comparison) and Bubba Smurf. They both do really well if you keep in mind correct tongue weight and run a brake controller.
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Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:43 am |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: Toy hauler conversion
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Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:27 pm |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Toy hauler conversion
My little Starcraft from the 70's tows well, but it's not lifted, just flipped the axle and went up to the next tire size.
Edit - I forgot that I had a motorcycle carrier between it and the bronco, I'm sure it helped stabilize it having the trailer axle back a bit further.
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Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:37 pm |
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hockeydad4-22
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Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:11 pm Posts: 2378 Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
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Re: Toy hauler conversion
_________________ [color=#BFFF40]Greg
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Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:23 am |
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HIX
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:38 pm Posts: 174 Location: Wheat Ridge Colorado
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Re: Toy hauler conversion
Decided just to do a spring over for now. Still need to buy bigger wheels and tires but it should get me thru
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Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:13 am |
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mickphatmac
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Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:26 am Posts: 1810 Images: 14 Location: Evans,CO
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Re: Toy hauler conversion
Nice job! Looks great. I did the same to mine, Springs over axles, bigger wheels and tires....
FYI, you'll either need to make, or haul some blocks or something to accommodate the extra height when you put the leveling arms down at all 4 corners, Same thing for the front tongue jack, Bought a Double fold up step since it was too high for the wife and kiddos, Also, I had to add about a foot to the awning poles or it was too short and the door rubbed it! Larger wheels had to have a 3" aluminum spacer on both sides due to back spacing. - Not Cheap! (also welded bigger spare tire carrier to the bumper so the larger spare wouldn't tear through the plywood/plastic in the rear!)
All in all, a simple project that just kept on giving ;)
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Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:02 pm |
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HIX
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:38 pm Posts: 174 Location: Wheat Ridge Colorado
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Re: Toy hauler conversion
Here it is with a 205/75/15 instead of the stock 185/80/13
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Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:24 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Toy hauler conversion
Looks good!
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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