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mickphatmac
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Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:26 am Posts: 1810 Images: 14 Location: Evans,CO
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Wiring Gurus!
I'm swapping a 3 on the tree out of a '72 and replacing it with a '74-'77(?) automatic column.
Can anyone give me a wiring diagram from what was, to what it is now...
ie: red = red/whitestripe yellow = yellow/black stripe
I know the old one only has 8 wires and the new one 1 extra for the indicator light...which I also need to know exactly where that little sucker goes!
(please don't assume that I know anything about wiring and electricity, I won't be offended ;) Here's the new one...
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_________________ 1968 3.5" Lift on 31's Front serpentine belt ViperBuilt 4x4x2 PS C4 '66 Speedo '66 Horn Button- STROPPE goodies: Steering Wheel, Roll Bar, Cactus Smasher SOLD :(1972 Explorer Sport - '66 Eyebrow Grill - '66 Speedometer - Stroppe Steering Wheel - Stroppe RollBar - ViperBuilt C4
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Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:08 pm |
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BroncoRaider
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Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:47 am Posts: 531 Location: Stapleton
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Re: Wiring Gurus!
Here is the guide from painless. The column connections start on page 43, then there is a 66-73 diagram on page 80. http://www.painlessperformance.com/Manuals/10114.pdfI hope this helps and the colors line up. Tim
_________________ “Buddy” - 1975 Bronco Sport, 302/Viperbuilt 4R70W/D20, Explorer EFI, More Patina than Paint...
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Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:43 pm |
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sykanr0ng
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Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:46 am Posts: 405 Location: Greeley, CO
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Re: Wiring Gurus!
One of the useful links I have found for Bronco wiring: http://seabiscuit68.tripod.com/
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Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:20 pm |
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mickphatmac
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Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:26 am Posts: 1810 Images: 14 Location: Evans,CO
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Re: Wiring Gurus!
Thanks guys, still looking for more info.
Column indicator light goes with what hole? Or run 1 wire separate to light switch?
_________________ 1968 3.5" Lift on 31's Front serpentine belt ViperBuilt 4x4x2 PS C4 '66 Speedo '66 Horn Button- STROPPE goodies: Steering Wheel, Roll Bar, Cactus Smasher SOLD :(1972 Explorer Sport - '66 Eyebrow Grill - '66 Speedometer - Stroppe Steering Wheel - Stroppe RollBar - ViperBuilt C4
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Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:48 am |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: Wiring Gurus!
The easiest thing for you to do is run a 73 turn signal harness. The wiring should be same color as what you have and the connections will be the same. IIRC, pre-74 has female connections under dash and male on the switch wiring.
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:09 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: Wiring Gurus!
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:15 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: Wiring Gurus!
This is all from two posts of Vipers that I found on CB.com in 5 minutes of searching and copy/pasted to here in another 5 minutes while driving 75mph across Kansas in a 7900lb truck with another 7000lb of cargo and trailer in tow.
Hope it helps.
66-'71 Column Connections
Light Blue=12v from turn flasher to turn switch, circuit #44
white-blue=right front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #2
orange-blue=right rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #5
green-white=left front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #3
green-orange=left rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #9
green or red-black=12v brake switch to turn signal switch, circuit #810
yellow=12v headlight switch to horn switch, circuit #460
blue-yellow=horn switch to horn, circuit #482
74-'77 Column Connections
Blue=12v from turn flasher to turn switch, circuit #44
white-blue=right front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #2
green=right rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #282
green-white=left front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #3
yellow-black=left rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #283
red-black=12v brake switch to turn signal switch, circuit #810
blue-yellow=12v horn relay to horn switch, circuit #1
white-red=12v from hazard flasher to hazard switch, circuit #385
blue-red=12v from headlight switch to PRNDL light, #19
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:51 pm |
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mickphatmac
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Re: Wiring Gurus!
Thank you Zac! Damn, be careful kid!!!
I had been wording my search wrong. This is what I was looking for.
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_________________ 1968 3.5" Lift on 31's Front serpentine belt ViperBuilt 4x4x2 PS C4 '66 Speedo '66 Horn Button- STROPPE goodies: Steering Wheel, Roll Bar, Cactus Smasher SOLD :(1972 Explorer Sport - '66 Eyebrow Grill - '66 Speedometer - Stroppe Steering Wheel - Stroppe RollBar - ViperBuilt C4
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Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:33 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Wiring Gurus!
Now that I'm not dealing with driving...
Personally, I would stick with a '73 style turn signal switch housing and shift collar. This would be the unshrouded clear indicator, versus the later shrouded and illuminated version. Additionally, the '73 indicator is cast into the shift collar and not a plastic insert like the 74-77 versions.
This would give you the ability to utilize a '66-73 turn signal switch and harness and not have to figure out female to female connections. Not that it is THAT difficult. I just personally prefer more period correct. That's why when I finally finish the steering column in my "72" '73, it will have the '73 parts in it.
But, if you really want the illuminated shift indicator, I can understand that.
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:34 pm |
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rlm18
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Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:23 am Posts: 58 Location: Colorado and Arkansas
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Re: Wiring Gurus!
I need help in this area. My the blinkers on my right side are not working, front or back. Everything else works. Hazards, brakes, left side blinkers running lights, etc. I am thinking column switch.
I went to replace my column switch and found this? What is it and can I just cut it out and run the wires straight where they need to go and splice where they are not long enough?
My current column wires are running into the top of it. Then the wires coming out the bottom go to different places. A few to my dakota digital gauge, some to relays, etc. A kwik wiring harness was installed on this rig. I have a mix and match of kwik wire, old, stock, modified, etc.
Thank you in advance!
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_________________ 74. A few different shades of yellow, black, and rust. 80's 302 w/ edelbrock carb. 80's 4spd on the floor w/ dana 20 twin stick. dana 44 in front and full floating 31 spline ford 9" rear with a detroit locker. 4.56 gearing. 5 1/2" of lift w/ 35" general grabbers.
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Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:14 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Wiring Gurus!
That's the column connector. You should keep it. Looks like there are at least a couple loose wires. One looks like column lighting and the other looks like hazard flasher power. Check all those connections before condemning the turn signal switch. c-321_74-77 column.jpg '74-'77 Column Connections Blue=12v from turn flasher to turn switch, circuit #44 white-blue=right front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #2 green=right rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #282 green-white=left front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #3 yellow-black=left rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #283 red-black=12v brake switch to turn signal switch, circuit #810 blue-yellow=12v horn relay to horn switch, circuit #1 white-red=12v from hazard flasher to hazard switch, circuit #385 blue-red=12v from headlight switch to PRNDL light, #19
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:29 am |
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Kinder
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Wiring Gurus!
I'll add that you may want to ditch the crimp connections and replace with solder & heat shrink instead.
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:42 am |
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hockeydad4-22
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Re: Wiring Gurus!
Yeah - ^^^^ What Kinder said ^^^^
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Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:27 am |
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rlm18
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Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:23 am Posts: 58 Location: Colorado and Arkansas
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Re: Wiring Gurus!
Ok, the previous diagrams are making more sense now. Appreciate it Viperwolf! I forgot to mention, the switch in my column is for a 73. My hazard switch is on the dash, as well as a switch for my back up lights. They work. I do not have anything to illuminate on my column. Does that explain the loose/cut wires? I can use the guide previously mentioned to wire it up correctly too?
Sodering/heat shrinking sounds like the way to go too kinder and hockeydad thank you! I do not have much to work with there. Do those connectors come with longer pigtails new?
The cam is broke too so that is another reason to change out the switch.
_________________ 74. A few different shades of yellow, black, and rust. 80's 302 w/ edelbrock carb. 80's 4spd on the floor w/ dana 20 twin stick. dana 44 in front and full floating 31 spline ford 9" rear with a detroit locker. 4.56 gearing. 5 1/2" of lift w/ 35" general grabbers.
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Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:05 pm |
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rlm18
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Re: Wiring Gurus!
Well I finally got a chance to work on my column switch. I am not sure how but everything is working now. In disassemble I found that only 6 of the 8 wires were being used. One was one of the wires for the horn and one was one of the center wires in the white piece.
I just reassembled it how I found it. I did have trouble soldering the different metals of the male connectors of the new column switch wires and the male pieces of the column connector so I just modified them, crimped them best I could and shrink wrapped them.
Any ideas on how everything is working but I have two spare wires? Also, are column connectors available to buy, or the metal male and female connectors inside it?
_________________ 74. A few different shades of yellow, black, and rust. 80's 302 w/ edelbrock carb. 80's 4spd on the floor w/ dana 20 twin stick. dana 44 in front and full floating 31 spline ford 9" rear with a detroit locker. 4.56 gearing. 5 1/2" of lift w/ 35" general grabbers.
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