Replacing 9" yoke - new crush sleeve?

[Jesus_man]

I am replacing the yoke on my 9". Do I need to replace the crush sleeve or can I just replace the seal and torque the pinion yoke back on?

Thanks!

[Kinder]

I’d say the proper way is to replace the crush sleeve, but then you’ll have to pull the pinion to get the setting right. And if you are going to pull the pinion I’d use a crush sleeve eliminator.

[ZOSO]

Agree with Kirk. I'd put in a crush sleeve eliminator and be done with it.

[Jesus_man]

I was youtube'ing and came to the same conclusion...but if I do that, then I need to reset the ring gear as well correct? I would assume the pinion depth would change a bit if I replace any part of the pinion assembly.

[Kinder]

No need to reset the gears if you don’t mess with the pinion bearings or the pinion shim(s). You’re going to need a dial or beam inch pound torque wrench to get the preload correct.

I’ll add that you want to get the “feel” of how much backlash you have before you tear into it and compare that to what you have after. It shouldn’t change.

[Jesus_man]

Ahh, that's right! The shims for the pinion depth are under the pinion retainer... Wow, so rusty!

Ok, so I'll order the eliminator kit, a new seal and a yoke. Everything else should be good to go!

BTW found what appears to be a nice forged yoke for $60 on amazon!

[Gunnibronco]

When I was looking at gears for my F250, I found this site. Very good price for a crush sleeve eliminator. Lots of good reviews of the seller.

http://www.ratechmfg.com/pop_up_order%204105.htm

[ZOSO]

Ahh, that's right! The shims for the pinion depth are under the pinion retainer... Wow, so rusty!

Ok, so I'll order the eliminator kit, a new seal and a yoke. Everything else should be good to go!

BTW found what appears to be a nice forged yoke for $60 on amazon!

Link to said yoke? I am going to order a new one when I do my gears

[ZOSO]

And watch what crush sleeve kit you get. My buddy ordered one for his 8.8 and it only came with 4 shims and we could not get it right with what they provided. Good thing I have kept all my old ones cause we needed them.

[Jesus_man]

When I was looking at gears for my F250, I found this site. Very good price for a crush sleeve eliminator. Lots of good reviews of the seller.

http://www.ratechmfg.com/pop_up_order%204105.htm

Now you tell me...I just ordered the Yukon set for $47.xx !!

Zoso - a link to the forged yoke:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MQ ... UTF8&psc=1

No dust shield, but I may try to see if my old one will press on??

[Jesus_man]

I'm hoping to get my rear axle operational again tomorrow, but I am struggling to find proper torque specs for the solid sleeve and how to go about it.

Looks like I need to remove the pinion retainer. I set this axle up 10+ years ago, and I am not confident it was 100% correct, so given the opportunity to make it a tad better, I'd like to know what the torque specs should be for everything as I go back together with it, including housing bolts, etc. I do have an in/lb torque wrench I can borrow.

Anyone have those laying around?

[Kinder]

Used pinion bearing preload is 6-7 inch pounds.

[Jesus_man]

Wow that's lower than I expected. Thought I saw new is 25in/lbs

[Jesus_man]

This could go in the "SUX" thread!! I fought getting the pinion out of the retainer for about an hour, smashing my knuckle in the process (no press) to discover the setup already had a crush sleeve eliminator in it!! So waiting on these parts was a waste of time. I guess I get to return the kit I bought.

But it has no oil slinger. How important is that?? And now, should I also order a new yoke nut?

[landshark]

You should use a new yoke nut but as they are technically one use. But don’t tell anyone, I have reused a few with no ill affects. Just used some blue thread locker.

[Jesus_man]

You should use a new yoke nut but as they are technically one use. But don’t tell anyone, I have reused a few with no ill affects. Just used some blue thread locker.

I figured as much. It's all back together now and I'll replace the nut next time. No oil slinger either as it appears it's only critical on reverse rotation axles...

The u-joint ended up being a little tighter than I would have likes, but I hope it'll ride a while!

[Eck]

I got a package of those nuts from Fastenal if you have one near you.


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[Jesus_man]

Huh...fastenal never ceases to amaze! I do have one. But it's all buttoned up for the time being...

[Jesus_man]

So while the new forged yoke survived the trip, it clearly doesn't have the clearances a factory one does:



Time to get the die grounder out for some clearancing!

[ZOSO]

JD your picture about the yoke did not show up. I am curious as to what the issue was. Im ready to order one up.

[Jesus_man]

I have a pretty severe driveshaft angle so you may not have trouble but there was an interference where the cap bosses contacted the valleys of the yoke. Not tho. Pm me your number and I'll text you pic.

[Jesus_man]

Let me try to link the picture again:

[Rox Crusher]

It doesn’t look like you had to shave off much.

Any concern about balance \ vibration as a result ?

[ZOSO]

Yea thats not much. But just enough. good to know. I'll likely order that yoke up in the next few days.

[Jesus_man]

The picture is after the self clearance. So I ground it out a bit more and tried to make it as symmetrical as possible.

That being said, I haven't driven it on the highway since. Been trying to address some other issues. So I am not sure of any vibration issues, or if I'd even notice them in my rig.

[Kinder]

I’m not sure if any driveline shop could balance a yoke, worth a phone call though.

[Rox Crusher]

JD - did you return the crush sleeve eliminator kit ?

If not, I’m needing one and could buy yours from you.

LMK

[Viperwolf1]

JD - did you return the crush sleeve eliminator kit ?

If not, I’m needing one and could buy yours from you.

LMK

What?

[Rox Crusher]

JD - did you return the crush sleeve eliminator kit ?

If not, I’m needing one and could buy yours from you.

LMK

What?

It appears mine is leaking from the pumpkin to the housing and at the pinion cover. Gotta get a pinion seal and the other bits just in case.

[Jesus_man]

Sorry man, I did return it. Not sure what was in the axle, but this is the one I bought:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00 ... UTF8&psc=1