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Heater upgrade

Postby B.O.B. » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:57 am

Got the new motor and cage for the upgrade but can't get the heater to operate. The motor s end like it is grounded by the housing. I have a ground wire coming off but it still won't work. Did I get the right motor or am I just not grounding it right?
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Re: Heater upgrade

Postby Gunnibronco » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:18 am

I'd bench test the motor, I guess. Sounds right to me. I used the parts listed in this thread (maybe a different brand, but crossreferenced to the same vehicle, I forget), and added a ground wire from the motor to the metal part of the heater housing. Seemed to ground fine with the heater housing bolted to the firewall.

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Re: Heater upgrade

Postby D&D72 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:40 pm

X2 I made a ground the same way. works good!
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Re: Heater upgrade

Postby B.O.B. » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:34 pm

Bench tested and works well. When installed in truck it pops the fuse because it doesn't seem like it's ground d well enough . Any thoughts.
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Re: Heater upgrade

Postby horseplay » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:56 pm

A popping fuse will be a power short to ground or circuit overload. Check your wiring and make sure your cage is free inside the boxö
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Re: Heater upgrade

Postby Jesus_man » Mon May 01, 2017 10:53 am

horseplay wrote:A popping fuse will be a power short to ground or circuit overload. Check your wiring and make sure your cage is free inside the boxö


Mine will rub at certain temps, so maybe the cage is binding on the box.
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Re: Heater upgrade

Postby Gunnibronco » Mon May 01, 2017 11:18 am

My heater fuse (in the original fuse box) was actually melting the solder inside the fuse itself. The tabs that held the fuse in place were rusty, and I cleaned them up with some sand paper & everything started working fine again.

Do you have a similar sized fuse on the bench test? That would eliminate the fan itself as the problem.
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Re: Heater upgrade

Postby B.O.B. » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:28 pm

So the cage was hitting the metal housing on the back and grounding out. Has anyone had to make a spacer plate between the motor and th housing. I cross referenced all the parts and they seem correct. What do you all think?
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Re: Heater upgrade

Postby Gunnibronco » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:59 pm

It's been a long time since I did this but I seem to remember that the fan had to be clocked to a specific location, or there was a problem. This might not be the same thing you have happening. It's just been to long ago for me to remember the specifics.
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Re: Heater upgrade

Postby landshark » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:38 am

I also remember that I had to clock or move the motor slightly in the housing. I will be doing this on the 72 here soon so will refresh my memory.
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Re: Heater upgrade

Postby B.O.B. » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:31 pm

Had a buddy with a 3d printer make a small spacer between the housing and the motor to clearance the cage. Should work like a charm now. Got my reseal kit for Christmas so just need to do that and should be golden.

The core seems good but do you all think I should replace?
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Re: Heater upgrade

Postby landshark » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:24 pm

B.O.B. wrote:Had a buddy with a 3d printer make a small spacer between the housing and the motor to clearance the cage. Should work like a charm now. Got my reseal kit for Christmas so just need to do that and should be golden.

The core seems good but do you all think I should replace?


Mine looked good too but replaced it anyway, i say keep the old one around and flush it out with some water just in case. I have heard the new ones can leak. Also I noticed the new cores are thinner than the old ones but I got it to work fine a few weeks ago.
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