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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby cpldavis37 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:03 pm

I bought all new lifters for my build. You probably know how to do it but here is a link I found useful. It's how to check pushrod length.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5MjAxnGeGKw
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Rox Crusher » Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:31 pm

everything but the pushrods are new...........

thank you for that link, it was helpful
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby ZOSO » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:46 pm

Pull one that's the correct length and one that's loose. Measure them. If the same I'd say you have some lifters that are collapsed. Did you soak the new lifters in a bucket of oil? Pump them up? Prime the oil system before starting?
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Rox Crusher » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:48 pm

ZOSO wrote:Pull one that's the correct length and one that's loose. Measure them. If the same I'd say you have some lifters that are collapsed. Did you soak the new lifters in a bucket of oil? Pump them up? Prime the oil system before starting?


We let the lifters soak in oil for about an hour.

Didn't prime the oil system before starting.

Do you think any damage has been done so far ?

I didn't see any metal or anything in the head galleys.
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Viperwolf1 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:59 pm

Just retorque them. They should be bled by now.
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby crawlercreations » Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:47 am

If you didn't prime the engine before starting it the lifters will scream for a bit. That hour soak won't do much. It'll take a little while before they get pumped up enough to not clatter. Fire it up and let run for a bit, they'll quiet down.
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby ZOSO » Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:23 am

Its on a harley but works for all hydraulic lifters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g84UKZg8zZk

If these are pedistal rockers they are not adjustable. if they are stud mounted then the loose pushrods should have the lash adjusted.
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Rox Crusher » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:47 am

they are pedestal rockers.

So how long should I expect to run the motor to get the lifters to prime themselves ?
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby crawlercreations » Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:45 pm

Could be less than a minute or it could be 10. Or, to be safe, you could pop the distributer out(cam sensor if distributerless) and prime the system well before another start up!
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby ZOSO » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:08 pm

get a primer and pop the cps out. hook it to a good drill. Run it for a while to pump it up. leave the valve cover off and keep checking the "loose" pushrod to see if it tightens up.
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Rox Crusher » Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:02 pm

I checked the torque on the rockers and they were all good.

I let it idle for almost 20 minutes. It seemed to quiet down some, and while it is still pretty noisy, but it no longer has an erratic sound to it.

I'm guessing the lifters are now primed and that the pushrods are now tight.

Still noisier than I think they should be so I will probably remove the valve cover again and check for lose ones.
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby ZOSO » Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:27 am

well did it get any better?
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Rox Crusher » Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:07 am

ZOSO wrote:well did it get any better?


Dunno, been globe trotting all week
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Rox Crusher » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:20 pm

ZOSO wrote:well did it get any better?


Nope, they somehow got shorter

They are about fiddy thousandths shorter than necessary
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Rox Crusher » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:14 pm

So, The Bronco Master (not you Shawn) figured out precisely what was needed.........which meant we had to go with push rods that were 60 thoughsanths longer and use a 30 thousandths shim to get the effective length we needed.

It now purrs like a roller rocker kitten.

Just gotta get the exhaust leak at the passenger side collector sealed up. This is the same place we had trouble on Phil's.

Thank you Phil !
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Moab Mike » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:00 pm

Rox Crusher wrote:So, The Bronco Master (not you Shawn) figured out precisely what was needed.........which meant we had to go with push rods that were 60 thoughsanths longer and use a 30 thousandths shim to get the effective length we needed.

It now purrs like a roller rocker kitten.

Just gotta get the exhaust leak at the passenger side collector sealed up. This is the same place we had trouble on Phil's.

Thank you Phil !


Hmmm, I recall someone else mentioning pushrods.
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Rox Crusher » Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:09 am

Moab Mike wrote:
Rox Crusher wrote:So, The Bronco Master (not you Shawn) figured out precisely what was needed.........which meant we had to go with push rods that were 60 thoughsanths longer and use a 30 thousandths shim to get the effective length we needed.

It now purrs like a roller rocker kitten.

Just gotta get the exhaust leak at the passenger side collector sealed up. This is the same place we had trouble on Phil's.

Thank you Phil !


Hmmm, I recall someone else mentioning pushrods.


that's the great thing about this club, so much great knowledge, experience, and willingness to help

thanks for all you do Mike
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby landshark » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:43 pm

Moab Mike wrote:
Rox Crusher wrote:So, The Bronco Master (not you Shawn) figured out precisely what was needed.........which meant we had to go with push rods that were 60 thoughsanths longer and use a 30 thousandths shim to get the effective length we needed.

It now purrs like a roller rocker kitten.

Just gotta get the exhaust leak at the passenger side collector sealed up. This is the same place we had trouble on Phil's.

Thank you Phil !


Hmmm, I recall someone else mentioning pushrods.



Was it Sean?
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Rox Crusher » Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:13 pm

landshark wrote:
Moab Mike wrote:
Rox Crusher wrote:So, The Bronco Master (not you Shawn) figured out precisely what was needed.........which meant we had to go with push rods that were 60 thoughsanths longer and use a 30 thousandths shim to get the effective length we needed.

It now purrs like a roller rocker kitten.

Just gotta get the exhaust leak at the passenger side collector sealed up. This is the same place we had trouble on Phil's.

Thank you Phil !


Hmmm, I recall someone else mentioning pushrods.



Was it Sean?


many people said pushrods (including me, but that was an uneducated guess)
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Justin » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:33 pm

Like!
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Eck » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:41 pm

Dude, your hood is missing...
big-lebowski.jpg


So you going to Moab?!
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby BroncoRaider » Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:13 pm

Sweet!
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Moab Mike » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:15 pm

Very nice but I was expecting a 100' burnout!
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby TOOLMAN » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:37 am

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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby akaFrankCastle » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:23 am

Which exhaust is that?
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby D&D72 » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:07 am

Dat sumanabastich sounds fargin sweet!
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Rox Crusher » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:08 am

Eck wrote:Dude, your hood is missing...
big-lebowski.jpg


So you going to Moab?!


funny, on both accounts
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Rox Crusher » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:09 am

Moab Mike wrote:Very nice but I was expecting a 100' burnout!


I was going to rev it up and do a burn out after I got done giving jr a joy ride but if you watch the end of the video closely you'll notice that the shift linkage became disconnected so we had to deal with that
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

Postby Rox Crusher » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:10 am

akaFrankCastle wrote:Which exhaust is that?


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