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cobshane
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Joined: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:31 am Posts: 516 Images: 1 Location: littleton
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Re: Entourage
Tailgate shmell gate, it looks so clean. I didn't even notice untill the gear install. Frickin sweet. Your ride has givin me a few ideas for my own. I love it.
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Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:39 pm |
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Entourage
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:45 pm Posts: 3275 Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Re: Entourage
Last week on the way to the Tech Day at Hockey's, the Trans had been slipping out of second gear and wouldn't shift into third. Even reverse had started to clunk. After work yesterday, ZOSO, ROX, and ViperWolf came by to pull my C-4. Removal went extremely smooth when you have people that have done this before, like ZOSO & Rox, and people who can do it their sleep like Viper. Thanks a ton for your help last night guys - would NEVER have dared to do this project without your help and expertise. Got started after work at 5:30 and were ing s around 8:00. When pulling the C4, we quickly noticed why we were pulling it - the oil was chocolate brown and smelled burnt. Rob and Phil noticed the transmission cooler line on the back of the Transmission was kinked and likely wasnt getting any flow. It was like this when I purchased it, so I drove it home from the sellers home in August 2010 and about 100 miles around town over the last couple weeks - that was enough miles to toast that C-4. The Torque Converter looked brand new so the trans may have been redone by the PO, just had a kink in the line when it was reinstalled. I am sad that I had to replace what appears to be a newer transmission already, but soon I will have a ViperBuilt C4, and be ready to drive to any mall in Colorado Thanks for the help last night guys!
_________________ "I truly believe that good will outweigh evil, but there won't be peace on earth until the power of love overcomes the love of power" - Jimi Hendrix
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:02 am |
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Viperwolf1
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Autopsy Report
It had been kind of reworked recently. Still had some fresh gaskets and front seal. Yet rear servo seal was hard as a rock and still had Ford part number on it. Direct clutches were toasted. Also had serious lube/cooling problems at the rear. Lots of toasted bushings, thrust washers and forward planet (all get lube from cooler return). One pump gear was installed upside down. Also wrong type of fluid was used.
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:50 am |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Entourage
ewwww, that doesn't sound good at all! Going to take some serious reviving! "Clear"! ZAPPP!
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:42 pm |
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Entourage
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:45 pm Posts: 3275 Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Re: Autopsy Report
_________________ "I truly believe that good will outweigh evil, but there won't be peace on earth until the power of love overcomes the love of power" - Jimi Hendrix
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:18 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Entourage
Poor chad. Your running out of places to mall crawl. This weekend they are demoing the westminster mall.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:34 pm |
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Entourage
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:45 pm Posts: 3275 Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Re: Entourage
I can't even remember the last time I went to the Mall - my truck may be more of a Village Inn / Costco Crawler
_________________ "I truly believe that good will outweigh evil, but there won't be peace on earth until the power of love overcomes the love of power" - Jimi Hendrix
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:56 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Autopsy Report
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:03 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Entourage
Should copyright the phrase "ViperBuilt" or "ViperWolfed"
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:19 pm |
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Justin
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:04 am Posts: 6198 Images: 0 Location: Lakewood
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Re: Entourage
Previous owners: Can't shoot'em, can't get Broncos without'em.
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:30 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Entourage
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:56 pm |
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cobshane
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Joined: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:31 am Posts: 516 Images: 1 Location: littleton
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Re: Entourage
Wow those parts are definitely burnt toast! Definitely poor circulation going on. Good thing you got the experts to lend a hand. Good work guys.
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:57 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Entourage
One more thing I found today. Pump bushing was installed backwards. Amateurs.
Also direct clutch inner piston seal was installed sideways. Leaking pressure there is what caused the clutches to burn.
I hope this was the PO's first and last attempt at C4 building.
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Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:13 am |
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hockeydad4-22
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Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:11 pm Posts: 2378 Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
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Re: Entourage
_________________ [color=#BFFF40]Greg
If you are the smartest person in the room - You are in the wrong room
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Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:34 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Entourage
It's ready.
There's always 1 last problem waiting to show itself. The main pressure regulator spring in the valve body was shattered. This C4 is like a cat-it has (had) nine lives.
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Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:57 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:25 pm Posts: 4901 Images: 0 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Entourage
You truly are an artist Phil. What was that? A 3 day turn around?
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:31 pm |
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Entourage
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:45 pm Posts: 3275 Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Re: Entourage
That C4 was a problem waiting to happen. Viper is getting me back on the road this week - Wednesday or Thursday after 5 if anyone wants to come see the master at work. I will post up the final date/time. I wil have lots of Beers, Pizza, and great stories from Viper.
_________________ "I truly believe that good will outweigh evil, but there won't be peace on earth until the power of love overcomes the love of power" - Jimi Hendrix
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Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:43 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Entourage
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Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:39 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: Entourage
Very familiar. Been tripping over mine for some time now. Needto get it installed but I'm holding out until I make a decision I have been pondering for some time now. 351.
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:01 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Entourage
I love the Bronco oil pans.................looks like an alien is trying to get out of there.
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:07 am |
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crawlercreations
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Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:36 pm Posts: 1101 Location: Arvada
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Re: Entourage
_________________ There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:02 pm |
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Entourage
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:45 pm Posts: 3275 Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Re: Entourage
We are dang lucky to have the foremost transmission expert right here in our club. Viper is coming by tonight to install. As always, feel free to stop by after 5 PM for Beer and Pizza.
_________________ "I truly believe that good will outweigh evil, but there won't be peace on earth until the power of love overcomes the love of power" - Jimi Hendrix
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Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:37 am |
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Entourage
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:45 pm Posts: 3275 Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Re: Entourage
Viper and I were able to get the transmission installed. Things went extremely smooth. Viper knows exactly what to do and likely could do it blindfolded. We started at 5:30 and were having brews around 8:30. During the install, I found out that Viper installed a shift kit, opened up the cooling ports for increased cooling, painted it, installed upgraded parts, new seals, new vacuum, safety switch, torque converter, etc. and perform better than new. Viper also went through my Transfer Case and repaired any possible future leak points.
Over the weekend, I installed finished the small stuff from the transmission job like the dual exhaust, front and rear drive shafts, capped off radiator trans cooler lines, dip stick, skid plate, transmission fluid, transfer case gear oil, and a new fan plate-style transmission cooler under the Passenger seat that turns on at 180 degrees.
Yesterday afternoon, I was able to take my nephews out for a ride. It shifted great, no leaks, and seems to have a lot more power. Shifted smooth in and out of all 3 gears. Kickdown worked great to pass a car or hear the motor growl. Wife said the Bronco even sounds better at idle. I am excited to start putting more miles on it. I will likely start driving it to work on Fridays. It is nice to have the peace of mind that I can drive anywhere now.
There is NO WAY I could have done this without Viper. Thanks Man.
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_________________ "I truly believe that good will outweigh evil, but there won't be peace on earth until the power of love overcomes the love of power" - Jimi Hendrix
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:03 am |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Entourage
No, no, that's backwards! Nice work! Always cool to get the bronco out and about after it's been down a while. I think Costco was wondering if they'd ever see it again. J.D.
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:13 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Entourage
It's good to hear it's working nice Chad. There are actually 4 C4's I built before this one that have not yet seen the road (or the mall). I must be putting them together right.
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:26 pm |
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cobshane
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Joined: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:31 am Posts: 516 Images: 1 Location: littleton
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Re: Entourage
Nice work guys. Never knew you can put in a tranny backwards. I guess that means your going to Ouray as well then. Cool !
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Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:15 am |
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Entourage
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Re: Entourage
Another picture of the Viper Built Transmission . . .
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_________________ "I truly believe that good will outweigh evil, but there won't be peace on earth until the power of love overcomes the love of power" - Jimi Hendrix
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:20 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Re: Entourage
Viper needs a logo...
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:31 pm |
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Entourage
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Re: Entourage
Took a few pics of my Bronco by the railroad tracks . . .
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_________________ "I truly believe that good will outweigh evil, but there won't be peace on earth until the power of love overcomes the love of power" - Jimi Hendrix
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:37 pm |
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Entourage
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Re: Entourage
A couple more . . .
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_________________ "I truly believe that good will outweigh evil, but there won't be peace on earth until the power of love overcomes the love of power" - Jimi Hendrix
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:41 pm |
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