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build thread from the wind tunnel
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Justin
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Depending on the complexity I can probably knock it out on Saturday.
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Gunnibronco
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Oh yeah I forgot. I reread a post in my 66 parts wanted thread about t-case shifter. I'll gladly take the steering linkage. Thanks.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:24 pm |
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Eck
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Not sure if you looked back at my pics on the ZF crossmember and I am not sure what all I posted but here are some pics that may help with coming up with a solution. As you can see, the tube is rear to the stock hole location and we welded it to a plate that was installed still using the stock holes. You can see the plate that attaches to the ZF is also forward of the tube. With already having a support crossmember on the ATLAS, I would think that you could do something very similar to what we did on mine and it would be plenty strong enough...
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:38 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Justin,
Can you put a 130* bend in a piece with 17" on one side & 15" on the other? That would give me a little on each side to cut off & fit.
I thought about an "S" shaped mount, but I don't see why a simple "V" shape wouldn't work. If I don't like it I can improve on the design later.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:40 pm |
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landshark
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build thread from the freezer
Here's mine thanks to Justin as well. I used 1/4 plate to reinforce the frame and added duff long arms shortly after this. No issues has held up nicely.
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Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:10 am |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Thanks for all the pics. The 'doubler' part of the Atlas4 sets the front output back far enough that a straight crossmember is just not going to work. I'm not 100% happy with my current plan for a crossmember, but it's the only option I can see right now. I think it will work, it will just look odd.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:59 am |
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Justin
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Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:33 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Re: build thread from the freezer
I see a napkin sketch in the works!
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:27 am |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: build thread from the freezer
MS Paint actually.
LOL, it looks like I forgot to attach this to the message I sent Justin yesterday.
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_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Rox Crusher
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Gunni, what will your final low gear crawl ratio be ?
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:26 am |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Right now with 3.50 gears my crawl ratio will be 54 in my 2.62 low gear, 86 with the 4.3 gear, and 224 with both engaged @ 11.2.
I may be able to regear & add an Aussie locker to the front soon, as well. If I go 4.56s it will bring my low/low crawl ratio to 292. That seems reasonable.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:33 am |
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Jesus_man
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Re: build thread from the freezer
4.56's on 37's seems like a good setup. I'd like to do the same someday, but I am pretty happy with my 4.10's on 35's.
224:1 is plenty reasonable! But check your math... 4.56 x 11.2 x 6.72 = 343.
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Digger
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Re: build thread from the freezer
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
Average 23.5 mpg, Best tank: 25.1 mpg
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ZOSO
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_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Jesus_man
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Re: build thread from the freezer
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Rox Crusher
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Re: build thread from the freezer
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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crawlercreations
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Figuring 700 RPM idle with 292 final drive on 37" tires you will travel about 23 feet per minute. Just over 1/4 mile per hour.
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Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:29 am |
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Gunnibronco
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_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Gunnibronco
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Roughly eleventy bajillion spot welds & sheet metal screws later. Driver's side is welded in. Next, grind, grind, grind.
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_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Gunnibronco
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Folded the seams over in the wheel tub.
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I'll seam seal everything, and I'm thinking of adding HNR & bedliner to the insides of the wheel wells too.
Passenger side wheel well cut out.
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_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Kinder
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_________________ Best to Date MPG: 26.6
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Gunnibronco
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Re: build thread from the freezer
I haven't been slacking. Just taking so long.
Driver wheel well is 95% done. Two pieces left to patch in, but I'm going to wait till the cage is out. Moving on to resetting the gas tank & fitting the fuel neck.
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_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Jesus_man
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Thank you for documenting this process. Someday I'm going to show someone qualified than me your pictures and ask them to duplicate!
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Gunnibronco
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_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Thu May 05, 2016 7:22 am |
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Justin
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Re: build thread from the freezer
I bought one new wheelwell for mine, cut in half, then used the pieces to extend things. More expensive, but less fab time.
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Thu May 05, 2016 8:33 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Smart.
I hadn't planned out the next steps after the leaf spring swap. I have a 4x8 sheet of 16g steel, and saw a way forward.
Gas tank brackets are tacked in, and I test fit the tank. Tomorrow I'll pick up the right hardware, and try to get it hung permanently. Then figure the fuel filler.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Justin
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Re: build thread from the freezer
I just ran the stock filler. Should work fine, although my axle isn't as far back as yours.
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Gunnibronco
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Re: build thread from the freezer
My filler neck has already been cut up, the Silverback flares pushed the filler from the original location. I might have to move it again. I haven't positioned my flares yet.
I've also moved my tank back a couple inches.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Gunnibronco
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Although it may seem I've been busy hustling Broncos from the poor people of Gunnison, I really have been hard at work on my 74. It just has all seemed so slow and tedious.
Gas tank hung, new lower half of rear bumper built, added license plate to gas tank holder on spare tire carrier. Some more prep work on welds & herculiner done. Added a cheap aftermarket washer bottle, because I couldn't figure a way to put my old stock tank back on. Moved my P/S cooler down in front of the radiator.
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_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Justin
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Re: build thread from the freezer
Nice!
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