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Colorado75bronc
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Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:13 pm Posts: 996
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Sweet dude, I had a friend that used to plow with his EB, and my dad's been plowing with his 70's fords for as long as I can remember, looks like an old Meyer plow
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_________________ 75' bronco, 302, carb'd for now, i'm gathering parts for efi, 3g alternator, saginaw pump, 4x4x2 box, fw hp44, fw 9", N.P. 435 w/ gearbanger shifter, twin stick'd dana 20, 2" BL, 5.5" wildhorses lift, and 35" km2's
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Are you plowing as we speak ?
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:12 pm |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Soon! Almost got it mounted up before the storm hit, but got a call to plow for ValleyCrest using their equipment.
_________________ Best to Date MPG: 26.6
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Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:16 pm |
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B.O.B.
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:31 am Posts: 770
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
That looks like the one I had on my bronco before I sold it about 7 years ago.
_________________ 71' bronco, np435 w/trailbanger, 302 efi, 35" KM3 on 17x9 Fuel Anza, warn xd9000i, cage arms, 5" lift
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Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:12 am |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
The moment I was dreading has happened, my clutch slave cylinder is kaput. So now I have to drop around 300 lbs of drivetrain to fix it. I did go check out Chris's big block setup so I know there is a possibility to move the setup outside the bell housing. It'll take some serious fab and machine work but I'm not scared, I'm just not sure it's worth it. Once I get it out I'll make my decision and report back.
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Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:14 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Joined: Tue May 07, 2013 10:37 pm Posts: 1485
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Son of a...
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Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:19 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Sorry to hear about that, but I am excited to see if you can convert to an external slave!!!
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:08 am |
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cpldavis37
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Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:45 pm Posts: 357 Location: Thornton, Co
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
My other vehicle is a Volvo s60 R. My slave cylinder went out. I started looking into fixing it. I figured out very quickly that it was beyond my ability. $2500 and 3 months later it just started leaking again. I hate that it is inside the bell housing.
_________________ TJ "Everyone suspects himself of at least one of the cardinal virtues, and this is mine: I am one of the few honest people I have ever known." F. Scott Fitzgerald 1974 Ford Bronco 3 1/2 inch James Duff lift ,2 inch body lift, 351w Explorer EFI, Viper built c4, Viper built Dana 20 with wildhorses twin stick, Kinder built Dana 44 with 4.56 gears disc brakes aussie locker and knuckle over conversion, Kinder built 9 inch with grizzly locker 31 spline axles and 4.56 gear
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Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:25 am |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:16 am |
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cpldavis37
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Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:45 pm Posts: 357 Location: Thornton, Co
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Yes the Volvo
_________________ TJ "Everyone suspects himself of at least one of the cardinal virtues, and this is mine: I am one of the few honest people I have ever known." F. Scott Fitzgerald 1974 Ford Bronco 3 1/2 inch James Duff lift ,2 inch body lift, 351w Explorer EFI, Viper built c4, Viper built Dana 20 with wildhorses twin stick, Kinder built Dana 44 with 4.56 gears disc brakes aussie locker and knuckle over conversion, Kinder built 9 inch with grizzly locker 31 spline axles and 4.56 gear
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Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:22 am |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
I retract my statement! LOL!
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:31 am |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
I should be more specific when I say "drop" the drivetrain. I'll actually be singling it out if the way like we did to Bubba Smurf. I left the large opening in the top of the trans tunnel and also had plans to open it up bigger going towards the tailgate. Right now the opening is covered by a '78 Bronco tunnel cover and I picked up a couple of other truck tunnel covers to use in conjunction. The plan is to create a removable panel that goes from the firewall to the end of the 205 output so I have top access to this part of the drivetrain.
_________________ Best to Date MPG: 26.6
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Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:05 am |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
That could be really nice! And you could even rig up a way to hang your drivetrain from the top! You have a cherry picker, but I have used a come-along to my roll cage.
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:03 am |
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Kinder
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Why are you reading my mind..."ratchet strap to the roll cage for a trail side fix."
_________________ Best to Date MPG: 26.6
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Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:45 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Great minds my friend, great minds!
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:27 am |
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Kinder
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
You never really know how well you've done putting something together until you take it apart. Since I put the drivetrain in before I put the tub on I tried to account for future repair events, i.e. swapping out the slave cylinder. Luckily my accounting has added up so far; both cross members were easily removed, there was ample space between the firewall and the bell housing to remove the bolts, the exhaust was extremely simple to remove and the starter bolts were accessable. One item that I didn't foresee was the body cross brace that the rear mounts of the front seats bolt to, it had to be cut out to allow the sling to move towards the back of the truck so the trans/xfer cases could slide back. I'll recreate a bolt in piece to replace it once I get the parts back in. The floor board cut may look a bit extreme, but I always intended to make this a removable panel. As for the SB bell housing being modded to accept the BB clutch slave setup I have good and bad news. There is a factory blank space in the casting for the clutch fork to go through, just need to cut the opening, that's the good news. The bad new is that there is no internal casting or material to mount the pivot "button" to. That part of the bell housing goes all the way back to where the transmission gears are. So for now I won't be swapping to the BB slave setup. There is a transmission rebuild in my future since I have the dreaded 3rd gear syncro failure starting, so when I tackle that I'll look at building the internal support required. Final bit of good news, once the cutting was done on the sheet metal it only took me 2 hours to get the transmission on the floor. 8 bolts for cross members, 9 bell housing bolts (I have a couple more than the typical SB setup with the 4 bt adapter plate), 2 starter bolts (looks like those could have stayed in since it bolts to the adapter plate), 3 exhaust bolts, 2 bolts for the shifter, 8 bolts to sling the driveshafts out of the way, 1 plug for backup lights and 1 hydraulic line.
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Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:36 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Well planned! You can't foresee it all unless you go thru these exercises!
Bad news both about the BB slave and the tranny rebuild. Mine was losing third (actually it might have been 4th) and then shortly thereafter, nearly lost reverse.
I wonder if Chris took detailed pics of his BB slave setup. I can do a little brainstorming. I am hoping mine doesn't have to come out for a long time, but if it does, I would really like to convert to external slave.
Are you rebuilding the tranny yourself? If not, I have a good contact in the 'springs who did a great job on mine.
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:28 am |
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Kinder
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Black Smoke Donkey
Big thanks to Brian for swinging by the night before last to help guide the 300+ lb trans/xfer setup back in. It went really smooth with the sling setup after I adjusted the center of gravity. Thanks also go out to Jon who stopped by today and helped me fab up a new cover plate and body support. He also dropped off some goodies for the camper in the form of containers that will be stacked to make a new drawer system, Thanks! The donkey is out of the barn and back in the pasture.
_________________ Best to Date MPG: 26.6
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Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:53 pm |
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D&D72
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Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:49 pm Posts: 988 Location: Henderson, Co. Grand Lake, Co
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Whoa those containers are sweet!
_________________ That guy John.... whatta Jerk.
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Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:13 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:51 am |
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D&D72
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Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:49 pm Posts: 988 Location: Henderson, Co. Grand Lake, Co
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Galley containers from the 787 Dreamliner. They come with the plane from Boeing but, they aren't the type we use so.....
_________________ That guy John.... whatta Jerk.
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Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:09 am |
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Kinder
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Installed the Throttle and Choke cables in my dash today, I think I got the Throttle cable in the stock location and put the Choke cable with it since it'll be repurposed as a manual override if my fuel cutoff solenoid fails. Next up is to install the second Heater control cable for my aux heater mounted in the camper. Thanks again crawlercreations for the stock throttle cable & pedal bracket. Here is a short video of the cable at work. http://youtu.be/T9hzHYZQDdg
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Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:07 pm |
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Colorado75bronc
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Looks factory , nice!
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_________________ 75' bronco, 302, carb'd for now, i'm gathering parts for efi, 3g alternator, saginaw pump, 4x4x2 box, fw hp44, fw 9", N.P. 435 w/ gearbanger shifter, twin stick'd dana 20, 2" BL, 5.5" wildhorses lift, and 35" km2's
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:32 am |
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Kinder
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Thanks Corey, it's placement is based off the info you gave me.
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:16 am |
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Justin
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Looks good! That's where my factory throttle cable is.
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Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:27 am |
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Jesus_man
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
I love the sound of your rig!! I think I have a throttle cable somewhere where you twist it to pull he cable and a red button in the middle to release it. After the Atlas I haven't found a need for it yet, but it's far from factory.
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:18 am |
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Kinder
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Black Smoke Donkey
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Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:35 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Double identity! BSD or work horse??
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:20 pm |
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Kinder
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
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Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:41 pm |
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mickphatmac
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Hey Kinder, Great build! I wish I had 1/64 the talent, and gumption you have! Do you have 2 '73 plates that you can actually run? or is the front just for show? Thanks for the motivation!
_________________ 1968 3.5" Lift on 31's Front serpentine belt ViperBuilt 4x4x2 PS C4 '66 Speedo '66 Horn Button- STROPPE goodies: Steering Wheel, Roll Bar, Cactus Smasher SOLD :(1972 Explorer Sport - '66 Eyebrow Grill - '66 Speedometer - Stroppe Steering Wheel - Stroppe RollBar - ViperBuilt C4
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