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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:20 pm

Rough weight estimates as it sits now.

Bronco weighs 5500 lbs as it sits now with soft top, 2 stuffed doors, 2 empty doors (stock doors are heavy, like 65 lbs ea).
Bronco trailer weighs 1000 lbs, hard top is off, but has the rack on it for the RTT. Using a generic 10% tongue weight that puts 100 lbs on the bumper when empty. I'll likely never go over 1000 lbs of cargo in it so 2000 lbs total, 200 lb tongue weight.
Camper should weigh right at 500 lbs when interior is complete, it's around 300+ lbs at the moment gutted.

"Most" modified Broncos seem to weigh around 4000 - 4500+ lbs based on a quick CB.com search. So I'll end up being around 6200 lbs with camper on and trailer hitched up, or about 2000 lbs heavier than a moderately modified bronco.

Sheesh, a TON heavier!
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Digger » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:12 pm

kinder wrote:Rough weight estimates as it sits now.

Bronco weighs 5500 lbs as it sits now with soft top, 2 stuffed doors, 2 empty doors (stock doors are heavy, like 65 lbs ea).
Bronco trailer weighs 1000 lbs, hard top is off, but has the rack on it for the RTT. Using a generic 10% tongue weight that puts 100 lbs on the bumper when empty. I'll likely never go over 1000 lbs of cargo in it so 2000 lbs total, 200 lb tongue weight.
Camper should weigh right at 500 lbs when interior is complete, it's around 300+ lbs at the moment gutted.

"Most" modified Broncos seem to weigh around 4000 - 4500+ lbs based on a quick CB.com search. So I'll end up being around 6200 lbs with camper on and trailer hitched up, or about 2000 lbs heavier than a moderately modified bronco.

Sheesh, a TON heavier!


Well. That's a bit heavier. :laughing2:
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:54 am

BSD has been chugging along quite well, minus the torque issues. I picked up a WH extreme duty U bolt set at the swap meet, they can only help keep the reared where it's suppose to be.

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Jesus_man » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:29 am

The axle walking under the truck on ya? Maybe time from an anti-wrap bar?
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby landshark » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:24 am

My wrap trap seems to work well. Maybe copy it. It's pretty simple to fab
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby sykanr0ng » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:55 pm

Put bigger spring pads on the axles?
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:56 pm

Yes, yes & yes!
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:29 am

BSD earning its keep.

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Rox Crusher » Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:07 am

kinder wrote:BSD earning its keep.

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:18 pm

Unfortunately no, but that's a great idea. I needed some timbers for a new buck & rail fence in the park.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:45 pm

I'm not sure if its okay to be excited about oil filters, but this is cool.

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Justin » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:00 pm

Dude, we still play with trucks. I think we've set the bar for excitement pretty low. :burnout:
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby ZOSO » Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:11 am

My buddy is an amsoil dealer if you need or want any of there stuff.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby colby45 » Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:19 am

It's okay to be excited about anything new for Broncos. I've got a new drive shaft u-joint coming today and I'm giddy like a kid on Christmas....
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Digger » Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:18 pm

I love shiny new parts. Especially cool stuff like bypass filters. But I'm kind of a dork.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:57 pm

ZOSO wrote:My buddy is an amsoil dealer if you need or want any of there stuff.


Sweet, I'll hit ya up for his contact info when I need replacement parts.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:58 am

So far so good with the bypass installed, I pulled the stick after 1 month and the oil looks new. A old guy at my local Napa is running the same setup on his cummins and sent the oil back for inspection, so far he's pushed it to 75k and the oil tested clean. I'll probably push mine to 50k and send a sample in for a test. He swaps the bypass filter and adds the 2+ quarts that is needed for the filter and calls it good for a oil change.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Jesus_man » Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:19 am

Are you using Amsoil?
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby akaFrankCastle » Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:54 am

kinder wrote:So far so good with the bypass installed, I pulled the stick after 1 month and the oil looks new. A old guy at my local Napa is running the same setup on his cummins and sent the oil back for inspection, so far he's pushed it to 75k and the oil tested clean. I'll probably push mine to 50k and send a sample in for a test. He swaps the bypass filter and adds the 2+ quarts that is needed for the filter and calls it good for a oil change.


That should be 7500 and 5000, respectively. Correct?
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:45 am

No on Amsoil, but could switch in the future, I'm running Cummins recommended oil right now.

And I mean 75,000 and 50,000, but those numbers look ridiculous in print. Next time I'm buying parts I'll ask him to write it down.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Jesus_man » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:49 am

10% of those numbers looks believable. 10k is achievable with quality oil. But beyond that - you're going to spend more on testing than just changing the oil.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby ZOSO » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:58 am

Jesus_man wrote:10% of those numbers looks believable. 10k is achievable with quality oil. But beyond that - you're going to spend more on testing than just changing the oil.


I guess Im over kill. I run rotella t6 full synthetic and still change it every 3k.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby akaFrankCastle » Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:15 pm

Which filter are you running on the bypass Kirk?
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:09 pm

I'm using the AMSOIL EaBP100. Here is a link to the system I'm running.

https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/ ... e=BMK21-EA
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:12 pm

BSD has had a busy year in the park this season. This is my latest project, replacing a foot bridge. The biggest pieces of timber where 8" x 12" x 28' Douglas Fir Timbers, about 750 lbs each.

Timbers were dragged down into the stream area, then I used two rigging block setups to get them to the abutments and one more to get them across.

Tons of fun and yes I did do the tiniest bit of crawling up the steep sections to reposition the Bronco correctly!
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Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:16 pm

Pics pt 2

In the last pic in this post is a very cool dude, Jake, white long sleeve T. He helped me with the project from the beginning and since I've never built a bridge before I learned a bunch of new skills. I'll be looking for other projects that he works on and I'll volunteer some time.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:20 pm

Done!
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby landshark » Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:08 am

That's sweet.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby D&D72 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:40 pm

Fine Job!
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby mickphatmac » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:49 pm

Now that's what I call the Ultimate 1/2 Cab!
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