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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Eck » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:43 pm

I’ve had mine in for a couple of years. One of the guys on our trip that races down there and runs a steering shop said it’s a “common” failure and knew exactly where the leak was when I was getting oil coming through the solenoid.

I too would be interested to find out what they say about the upgrade.


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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Rox Crusher » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:56 pm

The part we made for the ARB RD99 locker was an engagement collar. We stopped making it as ARB upgrade the collar to a stronger version. I am not aware of an upgrade seal kit but wish you luck in your search.

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:55 pm

Thanks for following up, I guess we’ll continue to fix as necessary.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby horseplay » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:18 pm

This situation is very common it can be caused by interference from the adjuster lock. The lock often needs to be machined so that the air supply collar fits freely. Most of the time it's the alignment not the seals. I believe ARB provided an action update for this.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Rox Crusher » Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:53 am

horseplay wrote:This situation is very common it can be caused by interference from the adjuster lock. The lock often needs to be machined so that the air supply collar fits freely. Most of the time it's the alignment not the seals. I believe ARB provided an action update for this.


Do you know how recently ARB provided this update ? Mine are about 3 or 4 years old if I recall correctly.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby horseplay » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:31 pm

I'm not sure when I get settled into my new shop here in Grand Junction I'll see if I can find out.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:32 pm

A little solar power for the Bronco camper. We struggled this fall when hunting to keep the lights on so it was time for an upgrade.

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby ZOSO » Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:32 pm

A good solar setup goes a long ways. Dad has 2 145watt panels on his camper. A good charge controller and we dont ever need to run the generator.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby BroncoRaider » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:52 pm

Diesel and solar? Talk about playing both sides!
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:05 pm

The solar is up and running, but I need to sort out the battery storage options. I’ve got a old 100ah AGM in at the moment but it’s too old to keep up with the loads I’d like to run. I can afford to buy a new AGM(s) to get to 200ah or save up some money and go Lithium. The newer battery tech is nice, but the price point hurts.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby ZOSO » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:44 am

Go 2 6volt golf cart batteries. The capacity is insane with them.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:29 pm

ZOSO wrote:Go 2 6volt golf cart batteries. The capacity is insane with them.


I’ve read that, my issue is space, I’m still designing the layout so I need to designate some space. I may try to locate them under the rear passenger floorboard. Since I stretched that area it might be a good place.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby ZOSO » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:24 pm

they are smaller in width but taller than say a 27series battery. Would be worth while to figure out how to make room for them.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby ZOSO » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:31 pm

Dad also has one of these. It monitors how many amps are being pulled or charged. Also measures amphours. It's a very good way of keeping track of the batteries. He has the TM-2030-A

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Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:27 am

Well... this is going to slow down my upgrade. The passenger tube is bent, about 15mm or 1/2 inch towards the topside of the axle. It did come out of a farm truck, but I’d like to know what they were doing to bend a D60 tube. Maybe the kids went for a joy ride and jumped it.

Anyway, any recommendations for a shop that could try to straighten it before I go the replacement route, maybe Crawlertech?

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Rox Crusher » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:09 am

That sucks, I wouldn’t have thought to check that.
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Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:26 am

Update, Crawlertech is closed for business, Josh replied to my email and said bring it to the Flopshop where he and Jon can sort it out.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Jesus_man » Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:07 pm

Thanks for update. Crawltech would have been my suggestion so it's sad to hear they are closed but good to hear he is still in the business!
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Strike2 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:57 am

I would have also never thought to check straightness on D60 crazy , I've seen some work that the Flopshop has done on a truck in the neighborhood and looks great, also sorry to hear about Crawlertech so has Josh teamed up with the Flopshop?
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Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:46 pm

Talked with Jon at The Flop Shop today, I’m going to try and drop the axle off this week. I’m glad to hear the positive words about the shop. Josh said he is leaving Colorado, so I think he’s just doing work at The Flop Shop until he leaves
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Digger » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:12 pm

That's bad, but fixable.

My old boss and I straighten out a JK rear HD44 in Moab after some enthusiastic product testing (think Dukes of Hazard). It was bent bad, but we straighten basically perfect with a bottle jack and transport chain. After double-checking it on the alignment machine at work, the axle is still running 6 years later.

You can bend or unbend one side more than the other by moving the jack around. The JK axle wasn't bent symmetrically and after getting it close, we had to move the jack to affect the passenger side more than drivers.

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:10 pm

I actually thought about trying to straighten it myself. I was thinking an nice I-beam, my 20 ton hydraulic bottle jack, a nice 3/8 chain, my torch and maybe a small jig. But I have a promise to keep with the Camaro coming into the garage this week for a new clutch and the suspension work.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Digger » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:06 pm

Fair enough.

FYI - It is very easy to bend an axle housing with a 20 ton jack. We nulled out a toe-in problem on a Toyota rear axle last year using the same method.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Justin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:32 pm

Kirk, could you please let me know what you get quoted?
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:31 pm

Will do, I have a rough over the phone price now, but I hope to hear from Jon early next week after he’s had a chance to straighten it out.

I talked with him for a few, they have some cool builds happening at the shop. He really liked BSD, which was nice, it doesn’t make everyone happy, per the social media haters, ha!
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:59 pm

Housing is toast. I know it’s a long shot but if anyone has a lead on a 1978-1979 D60 housing or complete axle let me know.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby crawlercreations » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:11 pm

Kinder wrote:Housing is toast. I know it’s a long shot but if anyone has a lead on a 1978-1979 D60 housing or complete axle let me know.


Damn. That's a bit of a unicorn.... may I suggest this;

http://www.spidertrax.com/products/Axle-Housings
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Kinder » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:21 pm

crawlercreations wrote:
Kinder wrote:
Damn. That's a bit of a unicorn.... may I suggest this;

http://www.spidertrax.com/products/Axle-Housings


Thanks, I’m definitely considering going aftermarket if I can’t find something local and soon’ish. I have a set of Kingpin Cs that I could have welded to a housing.
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby Digger » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:12 pm

Kinder wrote:Housing is toast. I know it’s a long shot but if anyone has a lead on a 1978-1979 D60 housing or complete axle let me know.



Dang. Is the center section messed up?
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey

Postby millerpz » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:29 pm

Does it need to be a 78-9? Car-part.com is showing a 1991 in Grand Junction. Pumpkin is offset more to the DS, so the shaft lengths are different.
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