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Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:14 pm
by Rox Crusher
Hello everyone - I originally bought this jewel for my son as his first vehicle but he didn't find it to his liking which turned out great for me.

The drive train is pretty close to stock.........it is equipped with a carbed 302, a C4 & D20, with 3.54 gears and a limited slip out back.

With help and advice from several great guys I have done a lot of mechanical work to the ol girl. The C4 and D20 were rebuilt by Viper with help by 777mechanic, and me doing the grunt work. I upgraded the brakes to an Astro Van based Hydroboost system and then installed all new axles, bearings, brakes, brake lines, etc.

Zillacon, 76bronco, and I recently installed a Wild Horses 3.5" lift. At the same time I added Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs on the 15" x 8.5" slots.

Future plans include 5.0 EFI (donor from 98 Explorer standing by), a "hidden" winch, and a gear change and ARB lockers. From there I might as well replace the rusted out floor pans and slap on some fresh paint.

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I thought I would add a pic of our other project..............this is my wife's 57 Ford Fairlane 500 2 door hard top. I took the 352 FE & 3 speed out of it and will be putting in a 428 Cobrajet and a toploader 4 speed.

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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:21 pm
by Lobobronco
About time to see that great looking rig.....

I'll say it again....my favorite paint job...don't change it (or at least the scheme) :mrgreen: !

Matt

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:40 pm
by ClayJ
Beautiful Bronco. I remember standing and staring at it at the Bear Creek m&g.

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:42 pm
by airbur
Nice rig!! Funny, I just saw that air cleaner in the Summit Racing catalog....I like.

And to resolve your dilemma...go 351W EFI! That's what I plan on doing. Talk to Viperwolf1 (Phil). He did the 5.0L EFI and while it's great...he wishes he went with the 351 now. Maybe we can do it together and get discounts along the way! :)

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:46 pm
by HoosierDaddy
Love the "Fall Grass" picture.

Oddly enough , I've been running color schemes through my head for a long time now for my Bronco and I was wondering how colors similiar to that would look in reality.
Very sharp .... Saved the pic as my background now :)

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:24 am
by Rox Crusher
airbur wrote:Nice rig!! Funny, I just saw that air cleaner in the Summit Racing catalog....I like.


I like it too because it is a little different.

However, it rubs on the underside of the hood ever so slightly. This could be solved easily enough by adjusting carb height or machining a bit off the bottom of the air cleaner itself.

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:05 am
by Entourage
Did you submit the Fall Grass Photo to the ClassicBroncos.com Calendar? I just got mine yesterday and was disappointed with the majority of choices. I understand it was done democratically so I am not complaining, but I cannot understand why this was not in the calendar.

Guess the solution is to do a Colorado Classic Broncos Calendar next year and I think we have Mr. October right here thumbs up

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:41 am
by Rox Crusher
I was inspired by Matt's cool photo of his in front of the barn but I took the photo after the calendar submision deadline, maybe next year ?

Yes, I think we should do a local calendar ! (Why wait til next year?)

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:18 am
by Entourage
A 2012 Calendar would be awesome. Only reason I say wait is because I have a 2011 ClassicBroncos.com Calendar and the timing involved in getting it ready for 2011. Timing is great to start thinking and planning for 2012. Likely someone here has a source for getting these produced.

Getting 12 good pictures from the group may be the easiest project ever. We have already seen a ton of good pics posted here on the Home Page. Add in the fact that lots of guys have photography as a hobby as well - should come together pretty easy. I also want to do a HUGE group photo this summer.

I am voting Jeff for Mr. October!

BTW - I cannot wait to do the family pic next spring with the Bronco like Dan, Jeremy, and others did. If you haven't seen Jeremy's, you should check out CB.com and check it out - looks awesome.

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:40 pm
by akaFrankCastle
Found some pics from the COS M/G

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:42 pm
by Entourage
I have been calling you Mr. October ever since I saw your avatar. Look through your pics and enter some of these pics for the 2011 Calendar!

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:18 pm
by Rox Crusher
added pics of my other project to my original post

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:25 pm
by BFD305
That car is amazing. I forgot to ask, what did you end up getting as your son's first car in place of the Bronco?

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:47 pm
by Lobobronco
Just caught up!!!!

Wow drool !

Rox....you are my hero! That car is amazing. When do I get a ride!

Hope to see you next weekend!

Matt

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:04 pm
by Rox Crusher
Howdy Matt - believe me, it isn't that amazing right now.

no engine or tranny in it...............just sitting in the garage waiting for renewed interest and available funding.

see you at breakfast

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:34 pm
by Moab Mike
Do you have the EFI installed yet? How's it running?

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:58 pm
by Rox Crusher
76fordbronco wrote:Do you have the EFI installed yet? How's it running?


driving it to work tomorrow

pullin the tank and engine over the week end

gonna go slowly............may take all winter depending on funds, etc

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:23 pm
by HorseMan
A 77 true ford blue bronco decor, makes a great eye catcher. Wow that car is insane!

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:19 am
by Rox Crusher
yeah, gonna update this thread with some previous upgrades, sorry for the redunduncy.

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:21 am
by Rox Crusher
I have been wanting to do this for a long time but just got around to it.

As several others have done, I made some inserts out of 2"x4" rectangular tubing. These go in the end of the frame to strengthen it. The inserts are about 8" long and on one end you have to cut and re-weld it so it will match the countour of the bottom part of the frame.
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You also need to make some shims to take up the slack between the sidewalls of the frame and the vertical walls of the insert. I used 3/16"x2" flatbar, drilled a half inch hole, and then welded them to the outside walls of the inserts. These shims keep the sidewall of the frame from collapsing onto the insert when you tighten the hell out of the horizontal mounting bolt.

Then I made a stiffner bar out of 2"x2" heavy wall square tubing. This got welded between the inserts where the frame is notched for access to the original bumper mounting bolts. The inserts already eliminated access to these bolts so I decided that adding this stiffener couldn't hurt.
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Then I mounted some chrome tow hooks from mid 90s F250/F350.
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One thing I would do differently next time is to weld nuts on the inside floor of the insert so that you could just thread the mounting bolts in.

As it is now, you have to drop the rear mounting bolt for the tow hook down from inside and put the lockwasher and nut on from the bottom.

This is because you have to put the bumper on and drop a carraige bolt all the way down through the bumper, frame, insert..........and out through the bottom.....................which of course eliminates access to the bolt head so you can't tighten it. I got lucky and one is real tight and the other is kinda tight so I will have to keep an eye on it.

I am now ready to pull all my neighbors' 4 door Jeep Rubicons out of the snow banks this winter !

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:45 am
by D&D72
Nice job Jeff, that's another on my list of things to do.

TRE based TRO on a 76 / 77

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:57 pm
by Rox Crusher
Howdy guys,

As we learned a few things specific to 76/77 model Bronco, I thought I would share results of my TieRod Over conversion using Roughstuff TieRod End components in combination with knuckles off of a 78/79 Bronco.

The tie rod attachment points on the 78/79 knuckle are about 1" lower than the stock knuckles used on 76/77 Broncos. So in theory, the 76/77 knuckles would be better in terms of achieving maximum trail clearance for steering linkage.

Unfortunately, the attachment points on 76/77 are about 1" closer to the wheels preventing use of any of the heavier duty steering linkage components available which is why I elected to use the 78/79 knuckles.

On to the good stuff, since the 76/77 Bronco came stock with a longer track bar bracket, you don't have to use a drop pitman arm or an axle riser bracket to achieve nearly perfect geometry between trac bar and drag link. Mine ended up being within 1 degree of each other.

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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:27 pm
by casadejohnson
That's pretty slick, I'll be stealing your design !

Rox Crusher wrote:I have been wanting to do this for a long time but just got around to it.

As several others have done, I made some inserts out of 2"x4" rectangular tubing. These go in the end of the frame to strengthen it. The inserts are about 8" long and on one end you have to cut and re-weld it so it will match the countour of the bottom part of the frame.
bronco 2.JPG


You also need to make some shims to take up the slack between the sidewalls of the frame and the vertical walls of the insert. I used 3/16"x2" flatbar, drilled a half inch hole, and then welded them to the outside walls of the inserts. These shims keep the sidewall of the frame from collapsing onto the insert when you tighten the hell out of the horizontal mounting bolt.

Then I made a stiffner bar out of 2"x2" heavy wall square tubing. This got welded between the inserts where the frame is notched for access to the original bumper mounting bolts. The inserts already eliminated access to these bolts so I decided that adding this stiffener couldn't hurt.
bronco 3.JPG


Then I mounted some chrome tow hooks from mid 90s F250/F350.
bronco 5.JPG


One thing I would do differently next time is to weld nuts on the inside floor of the insert so that you could just thread the mounting bolts in.

As it is now, you have to drop the rear mounting bolt for the tow hook down from inside and put the lockwasher and nut on from the bottom.

This is because you have to put the bumper on and drop a carraige bolt all the way down through the bumper, frame, insert..........and out through the bottom.....................which of course eliminates access to the bolt head so you can't tighten it. I got lucky and one is real tight and the other is kinda tight so I will have to keep an eye on it.

I am now ready to pull all my neighbors' 4 door Jeep Rubicons out of the snow banks this winter !

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:33 pm
by Moab Mike
X2

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:29 am
by Dukietown
X3 I need to replace/upgrade my steering setup anyways. Might be time to hunt down a 4x4x2 and do the whole setup at once.

Fuel delivery problems: THIRD TIME IS THE CHARM ?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:54 pm
by Rox Crusher
1st time a hose clamp came loose which let the hose dislodge from pick up tube

2nd time I found a bunch of crap in bottom of the tank

This time I found pieces of cork gasket and what appeared to be some Right Stuff was blocking the strainer / sock at the pick up point

I will reinstall tank tomorrow and hope this is the last time

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:14 pm
by Moab Mike
Nice work! Glad it was an somewhat easy fix. (If you call pulling the tank easy).

poke

Re: Fuel delivery problems: THIRD TIME IS THE CHARM ?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:17 pm
by Gunnibronco
Rox Crusher wrote:1st time a hose clamp came loose which let the hose dislodge from pick up tube

2nd time I found a bunch of crap in bottom of the tank

This time I found pieces of cork gasket and what appeared to be some Right Stuff was blocking the strainer / sock at the pick up point

I will reinstall tank tomorrow and hope this is the last time



If you sell it, just think of how much fun you'd be missing out on!

I did some reading, Right Stuff isn't gas resistant, silicone sealants aren't, I used Permatex #2.

I still haven't used my trans jack for a transmission, but it was great for lifting my tank in & out.

Re: Fuel delivery problems: THIRD TIME IS THE CHARM ?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:07 am
by Rox Crusher
Gunnibronco wrote:
Rox Crusher wrote:1st time a hose clamp came loose which let the hose dislodge from pick up tube

2nd time I found a bunch of crap in bottom of the tank

This time I found pieces of cork gasket and what appeared to be some Right Stuff was blocking the strainer / sock at the pick up point

I will reinstall tank tomorrow and hope this is the last time



If you sell it, just think of how much fun you'd be missing out on!

I did some reading, Right Stuff isn't gas resistant, silicone sealants aren't, I used Permatex #2.

I still haven't used my trans jack for a transmission, but it was great for lifting my tank in & out.


Yeah, I guess this time it was the Wrong Stuff. It was in the bottom of the tank in gelatin like globs.

I installed a new cork gasket without any sealant this time

Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:52 pm
by Rox Crusher
Tank back in, new gas added to cleaned tank, runs great again.