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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Power Steering solved
I couldn't seem to find the other thread where we were discussing power steering woes............
Several of us have had challenges with reliability of the Explorer pumps. I have replaced 4 or 5 since swapping in a 351 last spring. I contributed it to marginal pump for the application combined with poor rebuilds from parts houses.
Well Viperwolf did a bunch of research and came up with a high flow pump that will fit the Explorer brackets with very minimal effort.
The first attempt at using this pump on my rig was problematic as the pump was starved due to the fitting (return into pump) having a very pronounced 90 degree turn in it. The pump howled and growled under load.
2nd attempt Viperwolf came up with a different fluid return line that has a really nice radius to it.
We installed it a couple of weeks ago and my brakes and steering improved dramatically. Best they have ever been !
Thank you Viperwolf !
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:25 pm |
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Eck
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Joined: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:33 pm Posts: 2460
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Re: Power Steering solved
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:34 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Power Steering solved
Not much to see really......
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_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:10 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Power Steering solved
So what is the pump? Viperwolf hydraulics?
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:15 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Power Steering solved
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:57 am |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: Power Steering solved
Looks very plumber friendly!
_________________ Best to Date MPG: 26.6
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Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:57 am |
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landshark
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Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 3942 Location: Denver, Wash Park Area
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Re: Power Steering solved
just to add some info about the explorer pump with the superduty internals.
I have rebuilt 4 of these and measured just about every part you swap from the superduty pump - the only thing i can find that is different is the cam ring (see circle in picture below) the superduty one has a slightly larger inner diameter hole (elongated egg shape) at either end. Makes sense as that would mean the vanes in the rotor would extend a bit more and move more fluid I would suspect. Thats it, thats the only thing different between the two. I am running one on my 76 with disk and hydroboost, so far so good. there is a little whine when you are on the brakes and turning at a stop but otherwise its effortless.
Are there any specs for the one your running?
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_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:28 pm |
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sykanr0ng
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Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:46 am Posts: 405 Location: Greeley, CO
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Re: Power Steering solved
Here is the other thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8812
_________________ "You say overkill like it's a bad thing."
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Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:18 pm |
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landshark
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Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 3942 Location: Denver, Wash Park Area
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Re: Power Steering solved
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:56 pm |
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