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Palmer72bronco
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Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:50 am Posts: 113
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new Build ideas
Ok everyone need input, thoughts, ideas, concerns ect. For my fiberglass bronco im thinking of doing a pretty cool build. but have questions and also wanted feedback from everyone. the motor i want to do a 347 stroker, with 87-93 fuel injection conversion. that im pretty set on but everyone please feel free to comment. i want an automatic tranny with a overdrive. im going to run 37s and running 4.88 gears. Want to be able to drive on the highway and not worry about my motor running at 3200 rpms for hours. was thinking 4r70 over the aod, but open to all, typically have run manuals in all my vehicles. another question, going to run soft doors or no door, or even build some customs. who has best door inserts? Do i need the two piece or one piece? have the besttop supertop which i will run year round. now i was thinking of build 4 link front and rear? have never done but have to buddys who have built competition crawlers, whats all your thoughts on that. i want to be able to do extreme trails with this rig but also drive. has a brand new wildhorses suspension so was throwing around the thought of adding spring rockers and pan hard back in rear and doing some radius arm work? thanks everyone for the help, im trying to get organized and a game plan before i dive into the build. please feel free to speak your mind and tell my your thoughts.
Ryan AKA Palmer72bronco
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Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:02 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: new Build ideas
Any plans for cruise control?
Any particular reason for the 347 over a 351W? Just curious.
How finicky are you about staying warm or dry? If you've got a good heater and aren't afraid of a little moisture, how about a half door hybrid? Maybe some tube doors that fit in with the inserts and have a fiberglass skin you can keep stored in the back and snap on in a few minutes. Not that anything like that exists, but I have concept in mind.
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:37 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: new Build ideas
X2 on the 351W, Airbur linked to a great article on why the 351W is a better choice than any 302 based block. Changed my mind. http://www.badasscars.com/index.cfm/pag ... prd104.htm4.88s may be too high a gear. You'll be spinning at 2000 rpm, at highway speed, with an OD trans. 5.13s will put you around 2100. I guess depending on which motor & how its built, it might be ok. But you'll want to match your highway rpms with your powerband.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:38 am |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: new Build ideas
Coincidence that the two guys asking about 351W versus 347 already have Lightning lower intake manifolds? LOL
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:27 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: new Build ideas
I'd still go 351W even if I didn't find my Lightening lower. I had already accumulated all the parts for the truck/bcb/mustang EFI intake, and the 351W before finding the GT40 lower. Once I found the lower, my build "direction" changed to include aluminum heads, custom cam, etc. That $325.00 intake cost me a lot!
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:43 pm |
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Palmer72bronco
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Re: new Build ideas
i thinking of using the cruise control of a mustang as and even taking a/c, heater. my bronco doesnt have any holes for heater so i can do a custom job. as for highway speed. i want the overdrive because having 4.88 and a np 435. running on the highway was a challenging. i have 2 302 blocks is the biggest reason im going with a 302, also dont see many 347 around and never have had a stroker and like the idea. im thinking soft doors, but most time nothing. also planning on building my trail doors. but was wondering who makes best fiberglass door inserts? 2 piece, backing plate? not a clue on any of that.
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:13 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: new Build ideas
Why put inserts in? I agree they look nice, but I built custom doors for my factory opening and an glad I did. Makes it easier to get in and out. They are two piece and I like that as well. Nice to have an armrest on easier trials, but nice to pull them off and be able to lean way out to see obstacles. I also have zip-out windows too. My design isn't the greatest, but it holds in enough heat bashing the snow that it takes the chill off.
A 4-link would be nice. Can setup to really flex. But no shame in running radius arm setups either. The new setup Clint is working on is sweet. But his old design (that I have) works great as well! For a rig you're looking to build, I'd look into lower gears for the t-case for off-road. Also look into getting your belly flat, that includes the design for link mounts etc. I'd like to run a set of spring rockers on my rig, but raise the spring hanger on the frame the same 2" that the rockers give me. That pulls the spring hangers up to get out of the way as much as possible. Can't tell you how many ledges I've been hung up on with those hangers.
Think about stretching the wheelbase while you're at it. 92" is great for mild to moderate trails, but get into the serious stuff and just a few extra inches makes a huge difference in stability. The name of the game is control and clearance. Where one guy drags his rear bumper and gets hung up because it sticks out too far, you can walk right thru because you built yours to stay away from the rocks.
Protection - do it now. I don't know how well a fiberglass body holds up on the trail, but if you want to keep it nice, make sure you have rocker, bumpers, front and rear quarters protection. Keep the bumpers like a military hair cut (high and tight).
Ram assist steering. You'll want it eventually. At least get your steering box drilled and tapped for the connections.
There is much more, but those are the highlights as I can think of them.
J.D.
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:16 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: new Build ideas
Great info JD.
Thanks
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:29 pm |
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Justin
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Re: new Build ideas
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:06 pm |
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Palmer72bronco
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Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:50 am Posts: 113
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Re: new Build ideas
Thanks everyone for the great info.
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Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:44 am |
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