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Gregg
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brake lights
My brake lights have stopped working. Here's what I know:
Bulbs are good Indicators work Hazards work When headlights are on so are the rear tail lights Brake pedal switch works (power in and through when pedal depressed) Connections between steering column and harness seem to be connected.
Where should I go next?
Thanks, Shawn
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:25 pm |
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cobshane
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Joined: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:31 am Posts: 516 Images: 1 Location: littleton
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Re: brake lights
If you have a test light or meter check at the firewall connector if your getting voltage when pedal depressed. If you are then possible wiring shorted or open going outside. If not then you now that it's a problem in cab. You did say that when the pedal Is depressed you do have voltage going out of cab.
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:05 pm |
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Gregg
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Re: brake lights
Do you know which connector at the fire wall to test? There are 4 or 5 connectors.
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:15 pm |
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cobshane
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Re: brake lights
Mine is a four pin connector going to the rear. I have a 66 so it might be different no reverse lights. It should be all the way on the drivers side
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:30 pm |
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cobshane
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Re: brake lights
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:36 pm |
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cobshane
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Re: brake lights
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:00 pm |
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cobshane
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Re: brake lights
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:34 pm |
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Gregg
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Re: brake lights
I topped off the brake fluid and didn't see that it was wired. I wired it up and got brake lights again. Zilla and coby, you two are geniuses.
Thanks!
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:01 pm |
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Shawns Fords
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Re: brake lights
I normally check for power to the bulb socket first. If you have 12 Volts there then you need to verify your ground is good. Also if the turn signals work the brake lights would work unless the wiring/connectors, or switch is bad. If all of that checks out add some more fluid!
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:42 pm |
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cobshane
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Re: brake lights
That is something else But your wires are crossed, the red should be in front
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:04 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Re: brake lights
score another one for JYD
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:42 am |
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Gregg
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Re: brake lights
Okay, seriously now....
When the brake pedal is depressed, power goes up into the steering column. Is it possible the brake wires are not connecting up by the steering wheel?
OR what color are the brake light wires coming back out of the column so I don't have to pull the wheel?
OR- I'm way off here and need another route.
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:10 pm |
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Gregg
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Re: brake lights
HA- Found it in the column. My turn signal switch was sliding out.
And you all thought it was fluid!
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:24 pm |
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cobshane
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Re: brake lights
Good job, nice trouble shootin
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:32 pm |
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Re: brake lights
'66-'71 Column Connections Blue=12v from turn flasher to turn switch, circuit #44 white-blue=right front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #2 orange-blue=right rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #5 green-white=left front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #3 green-orange=left rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #9 red-black=12v brake switch to turn signal switch, circuit #810 yellow=12v headlight switch to horn switch, circuit #460 blue-yellow=horn switch to horn, circuit #482
'72-'73 Column Connections Blue=12v from turn flasher to turn switch, circuit #44 white-blue=right front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #2 green=right rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #282 green-white=left front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #3 yellow-black=left rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #283 red-black=12v brake switch to turn signal switch, circuit #810 yellow=12v headlight switch to horn switch, circuit #460 blue-yellow=horn switch to horn, circuit #482
'74-'77 Column Connections Blue=12v from turn flasher to turn switch, circuit #44 white-blue=right front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #2 green=right rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #282 green-white=left front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #3 yellow-black=left rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #283 red-black=12v brake switch to turn signal switch, circuit #810 blue-yellow=12v horn relay to horn switch, circuit #1 white-red=12v from hazard flasher to hazard switch, circuit #385 blue-red=12v from headlight switch to PRNDL light, #19
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:54 pm |
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Gregg
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Re: brake lights
Oh look who decided to chime in....
Before I took the wheel off I found the wiring info on classicbroncos.com. You'll never guess who had it posted over there.
Rhymes with SHMIPERSHMOLF....
Thanks for all the help and comedy you guys. This club rocks!
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:22 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: brake lights
Hey, I thought you had it handled when you wired up the master cylinder.
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:12 pm |
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airbur
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Re: brake lights
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:14 am |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: brake lights
Reminded me of the ol Cruise Control Cancellation switch that was setting all those parked cars on fire.
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:17 am |
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Booger
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Re: brake lights
I can remember when they used to sell new turn signal switches in auto parts stores. The problem was that many installed them wrong and ended up having problems like you were talking about. I think my dad installed one once and found out first hand what problems it can cause to brake lights and turn signals. Glad you found it.
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