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WyoBronc12
Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:21 pm Posts: 27 Location: Laramie,WY
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EFI Costs
Hey guys just polling what yards and what price a efi conversion cost with mostly junkyard parts ( sensor replacement is acceptable)?
_________________ 1976 Sport, 302, C4, 4.11 rear 4.09 front, 3.5 in lift,33's...............
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Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:17 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: EFI Costs
It can probably be done for $400-$500. Hard part is finding a mustang ECM and a good harness. Most other parts are universal across most Fords of that era.
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:47 am |
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jbickhart
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:04 am Posts: 26
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Re: EFI Costs
I converted to '93 Mass Air Mustang setup. All used-parts except an RJM harness and it was $1500 in parts. I just threw it together with the used parts to see what happens..... it runs but has some major driveability issues. I expect to be replacing some sensors / injectors.....
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:49 am |
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WyoBronc12
Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:21 pm Posts: 27 Location: Laramie,WY
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Re: EFI Costs
Can't I use a f150 351 harness? Didn't they use mass air on those too?
_________________ 1976 Sport, 302, C4, 4.11 rear 4.09 front, 3.5 in lift,33's...............
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:48 am |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: EFI Costs
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:56 pm |
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WyoBronc12
Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:21 pm Posts: 27 Location: Laramie,WY
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Re: EFI Costs
also what is the five speed trans behind the 351w is it only the zf5?
_________________ 1976 Sport, 302, C4, 4.11 rear 4.09 front, 3.5 in lift,33's...............
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:52 pm |
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TIM
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Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:54 pm Posts: 41 Location: Denver
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Re: EFI Costs
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:02 pm |
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RJLougee
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Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:40 pm Posts: 215 Images: 0 Location: Falcon, CO
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Re: EFI Costs
_________________ '70 Bronco, MAF 5.0, NP435, D44/9", 4.10s, 33" MT/Rs, PS/PB '71 Bronco, HP D60, Hi-9, 5.38/ARBs, 101" WB, 408 Stroker, AOD, Atlas, 40" MT/Rs, PiMP EFI. '78 F150 SWB/Stepside/4WD, 351W/4R100/NP205, 35" KM2s, under const... '81 Coachman Caper XL MH, 4WD, EFI 460/ZF/BW1356, D44/Sterling, 4.10s/35s, under const... '83 Bronco, D60/Sterling, 5.13/ARBs, MAF EFI 351W/ZF/BW1356, 37" MT/Rs. '12 Buggy, HPD60, Hi-9, 4.10s, Explorer 5.0, Atlas 4-speed, my chassis, EB skins. And the latest project is a '99 Ranger Extra-Cab, custom frame/tube work, on 40s...
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Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:08 am |
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Kermit484
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Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:17 pm Posts: 49
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Re: EFI Costs
I used the parts from a '91 Mustang MAF, harness, ECU, sensors, and injectors. The original cost was $950; I could get it to start cold, but once it was up to temp and I turned her off, she wouldn't start again until it was cold. I replaced several sensors and couldn't fix the issue. I had to scrap the harness for a Painless set up (an additional $450) and then scrap the ECU for the Ford Racing ECU that was speced out in the instructions (an additional $450) :(. So I am into it for around $2000. Lessons learned :)
_________________ '77 - efi, 302, detroit 9"rear w/4.56, D44 (locked), 35" M/TR's, Roll Cage
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Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:04 pm |
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crawlercreations
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Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:36 pm Posts: 1101 Location: Arvada
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Re: EFI Costs
I injected mine for about $850. I found an rjm 5.0 harness(universal kit)new in the box on craigslist for $350, found a poorly listed a9l computer on Ebay for $60, new o2 sensors for $80, new gaskets everywhere for $40, fuel pumps and accumulator for $200 and all the rest(intakes, maf, injectors, iat, coolant temp, etc.) from a coworker for $80. About a weekend worth of work and it runs great! Well worth it at twice the price IMO!
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Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:41 pm |
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HorseMan
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Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:00 am Posts: 57
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Re: EFI Costs
What about the cost of a new radiator? is it needed? what about wiring harness? and fuel tanks 23 gallon? it seems these are all kid of needed? it would cost 1200 or so? I was just wondering if the ways around these items were just as dependable? cooling problems, wiring, and and fuel issues, I only run the original rear tank? I can see getting a motor from the yard, do i need to rebuild it?
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Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:30 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: EFI Costs
You can use the original radiator. I used a 69 GTO 400V8 upper radiator hose, and the stock lower with the stock water pump. You'll have more to do if you are running a serp set up. The RJM harness can be had for around $500.00. You can probably use a Mustang harness, but I didn't want to mess with old wires, my truck already has enough of those. You can use the stock tank, just use any low pressure (carb) electric fuel pump @ the tank, then an accumulator http://www.bcbroncos.com/store/product_ ... cts_id=119http://www.bcbroncos.com/store/product_ ... ts_id=1355then a high pressure pump, I used one from a late 80' Ford truck (89 Bronco 5.0- for reference), Airtex E2000 model. Find one at a salvage yard for the mounting bracket. The EFI tank w/fuel pump inside is an advantage, it keeps the pump cool, and is simpler, and I'll upgrade someday probably, but the above set up is supposed to work good. Here is a diagram, you can eliminate the switching valve & extra wiring if you only use one tank. http://www.bcbroncos.com/fuel%20system% ... 20mark.pdfYou can skip the low press pump & accumulator if you are sure you won't run the high press pump dry. But the lp pump & accumulator are insurance against burning up the hp pump. The Explorer motors are supposed to last 200k miles, if treated well, so it depends on the motor you find. If you use an Explorer motor, you'll have to use a different lower rad hose, and/or build a cross over (because of the serp belt set up & reverse rotation water pump dumps on the other side of the motor from stock). Zilla did one. Or use a different rad, the Explorer 4.0 rad is supposed to fit well and has the in/out reversed from stock.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:32 pm |
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B.O.B.
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:31 am Posts: 770
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Re: EFI Costs
I have some left ober parts from mine if you need something on the cheap. Upper and lower intakes, fuel accumulator, some other random stuff if you need it.
Also if you get a stock harness you can always send it out to Kolibar customs. they reworked mine for $250 and it works great. Total cost of the whole harness was $350 after i found one on ebay.
_________________ 71' bronco, np435 w/trailbanger, 302 efi, 35" KM3 on 17x9 Fuel Anza, warn xd9000i, cage arms, 5" lift
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Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:50 pm |
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WyoBronc12
Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:21 pm Posts: 27 Location: Laramie,WY
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Re: EFI Costs
Thans guys.
B.O.B-I dont have anything for the swap yet mostly been waiting to see what I can find all together. let me know what you have and what prices are.
Also on another side note, I am looking at an AOD swap what is needed with a stock 302 or efi 302 to make them reliable? I have read about 4r70 internals swapped over and bad pump issues? Can anybody give me moe details on this?
_________________ 1976 Sport, 302, C4, 4.11 rear 4.09 front, 3.5 in lift,33's...............
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:21 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: EFI Costs
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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