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Brent13
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Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:19 am Posts: 48 Location: Colorado Springs
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Ring and Pinion set up
Hello All,
I am moving closer to regearing the 9". I have never done it before. I have been reading about it, and probably have watched every video on You Tube. I think I have a good grasp of it. I guess I am reaching out for help, at least a trained eye to check my work, read the pattern, and make needed adjustments. Would any of you be willing to help me out on this project? I can supply lots of beer, or cash. I want to do this job myself and save a bunch of money. I called a shop in the Springs today, asked them what they would charge me if I delivered my bare third member housing and bought all the parts from them. They want $879 for the job. That sounds flipping nuts! So what do you say? Or even a third member rebuild party if there was some interest? I am probably a couple weeks out from getting started, and still need to order my parts.
Thank You
_________________ 1974 Bronco, 302, C4
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Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:09 pm |
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cravenbronco
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Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:40 pm Posts: 916 Location: Bailey
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
I have a friend that set mine up and he charged $50.00 Now on the D44 installation I called around and the cheapest I found was $750 up to $ 1000. I thought it was highway robbery. I do know that it is much easier to set up a 9" than it is a D44.
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Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:09 am |
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landshark
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Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 3942 Location: Denver, Wash Park Area
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Ring and Pinion set up
Definitely do the 9" yourself. It's a great learning experience and easier since you can put the 3rd member on a bench. Dana 44 isn't tough just a pain in the butt on the bronco.
Dana44 shouldn't be more than $300 - $400 if you supply all the parts.
I just paid $390 for a new (to me) big bearing 9" third member, pinion support, yoke, open carrier and gear setup. I supplied the gears and new bearings and it's ready to be dropped in.
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:07 am |
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cravenbronco
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Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:40 pm Posts: 916 Location: Bailey
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
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Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:22 am |
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hockeydad4-22
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Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:11 pm Posts: 2378 Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
That's what I thought but I have all the parts that will be needed to install it. But I have called 5 or 6 shops and they are out ragiously priced. Going to end up taking it to a club member that said he would help set them and teach me in the process.[/quote]
And this is just one more example of why this club is so awesome!
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Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:36 am |
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Brent13
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Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:19 am Posts: 48 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
So maybe two of us need help on RP set up, perhaps there are others, and we could come together on a RP party?
_________________ 1974 Bronco, 302, C4
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Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:29 pm |
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hockeydad4-22
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Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:11 pm Posts: 2378 Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
_________________ [color=#BFFF40]Greg
If you are the smartest person in the room - You are in the wrong room
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Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:36 pm |
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Brent13
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Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:19 am Posts: 48 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
Don't think I would be a good host, I do not have a press. But from what I have learned, a press is not really required, just makes the job easier.
_________________ 1974 Bronco, 302, C4
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Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:32 pm |
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Justin
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:04 am Posts: 6198 Images: 0 Location: Lakewood
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
I'd be willing to host. I also currently have about 25 gallons of beer.
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Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:03 pm |
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Brent13
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Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:19 am Posts: 48 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
Now we are getting somewhere, 25 gallons of beer! I will bring more beer, pizza, sandwiches, and certainly some cash. All I want is one of you R&P experts to inspect my work and adjust if necessary. Show me the way of the gear....
_________________ 1974 Bronco, 302, C4
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Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:45 pm |
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hockeydad4-22
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Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:11 pm Posts: 2378 Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
Yeah - what he said ^^^
_________________ [color=#BFFF40]Greg
If you are the smartest person in the room - You are in the wrong room
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Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:34 pm |
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Brent13
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Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:19 am Posts: 48 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
Up top, anyone else looking to rebuild a 9"?
_________________ 1974 Bronco, 302, C4
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Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:46 pm |
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Dukietown
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Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:24 pm Posts: 523 Location: Denver
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
Curious what it'd take to convert a 9" Detroit locker over to to an air locker? My bronco is already setup for ARB in the front, I'd like to have the selectable locker in the rear as well. Probably something to do on another day but thought I'd ask.
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Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:54 pm |
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Brent13
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Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:19 am Posts: 48 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
Ok, how about 100 bucks to the first experienced ring and pinion person that offers to check my work and pattern, and make any required adjustment to get the proper pattern? My axle is out, third member is torn down. I will be ordering gears this week. I will bring to you, fully assembled third, for your inspection. 100 bucks, and a 12 pack of your favorite beer.
_________________ 1974 Bronco, 302, C4
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Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:45 pm |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Ring and Pinion set up
No $ needed, if you bring it by as described it'll be a easy check. Also bring the install kit & pinion shims just in case.
Dukie- swapping the diff is just essentially setting it up from the beginning, very doable. Watch the routing of the air line to keep it safe.
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
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Brent13
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Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:19 am Posts: 48 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
Mr. Kinder,
I have my gears and rebuild kit, should have my Yukon Grizzly locker early next week. Next week I am dropping off my axle housing and third housing at powder coat. I hope to have an assembled third member late next week at the earliest. Going with the solid spacer and shims on the pinion bearings, rather than the crush sleeve.
Thank you, and I will be in touch.
Brent
_________________ 1974 Bronco, 302, C4
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Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:06 am |
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Brent13
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Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:19 am Posts: 48 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
Pressed on carrier and pinion bearings today. Still waiting on the powder coat of third housing, pinion, and yoke. It is coming soon, the build!
_________________ 1974 Bronco, 302, C4
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Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:44 pm |
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Brent13
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Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:19 am Posts: 48 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
Now waiting on an inch pound torque wrench to check my pinion bearing preload. Believe I have my pinion depth correct per the pinion markings, 1.023". Once I get my inch pound wrench, I will get this thing finished up, and run a pattern.
_________________ 1974 Bronco, 302, C4
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Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:09 am |
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Brent13
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Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:19 am Posts: 48 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
I have all my tools now, pretty exciting night. Bearing preload on the pinion is 15 inch pounds, mounted the carrier, and set some carrier bearing preload. Pinion depth is a measured 1.023 and marked as such on the pinion per MFG. I set backlash to just over .007, MFG calls for .007 to .009. Ran my first ever pattern. I am unsure of the result. But from what I have seen on-line! it looks pretty close to good, maybe?
_________________ 1974 Bronco, 302, C4
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Digger
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Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:53 pm Posts: 1276
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
That looks really good. Not crossing the bottom, top or side edges. Nicely square in the middle. That should be quiet and give good service life.
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Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:27 am |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
That does look good, I always try to get the squinty eyeball shape right in the middle of the ring gear. Do you have the gear setup guide or book?
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Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:31 pm |
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Brent13
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Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:19 am Posts: 48 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: Ring and Pinion set up
No, I only have You Tube, and the instructions that came with the gear set. So you think I am good to go? If you have the time, I can bring it by on Saturday....?
_________________ 1974 Bronco, 302, C4
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