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akaFrankCastle
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:25 pm Posts: 4901 Images: 0 Location: Colorado Springs
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The "best" lockout hubs?
So, the other day I was kicking around the salvage yard. I saw quite a few different makes of lockout hubs on the trucks in the yard. Got me to thinking. What, in your opinion, is the best lockout to run on a truck? I have a set of basic Warns on the Bronco now. A set of Warn premiums in the garage I pulled from the yard some time ago. Saw some MileMarkers and SuperWinch the other day.
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:59 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: The "best" lockout hubs?
I've heard/read that the stock Ford hubs are strongest, even better than aftermarket. I've been running Mile Marker for 15 years and only had one break. It was working, but I noticed that there were some pieces floating around when I was greasing stuff. MM replaced it no questions asked.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:07 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:25 pm Posts: 4901 Images: 0 Location: Colorado Springs
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Re: The "best" lockout hubs?
Still kicking myself in the butt for sending the '66 to Tennessee with the stock 1966 hubs on the truck.
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:14 pm |
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sbolt19
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Re: The "best" lockout hubs?
If you have stocks, stay with them. If you have any of the others, when they break, get a set of the stock hubs.
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:19 pm |
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Justin
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Re: The "best" lockout hubs?
I've always heard stock as well. Besides, they say Ford on them, what could be better?
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:54 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: The "best" lockout hubs?
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:32 pm |
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Colorado75bronc
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Re: The "best" lockout hubs?
Stocks are strong, warns aren't to impressive, the hub fuse, the part actually touches the splines on the stub shaft, is really weak, they split almost every other time you break an axle or ujoint, I switched to the super winch hubs on my 79 after breaking a few warn premiums, and never had an issue again, and that was on a full size with 38.5x14.50 tsl sx's
_________________ 75' bronco, 302, carb'd for now, i'm gathering parts for efi, 3g alternator, saginaw pump, 4x4x2 box, fw hp44, fw 9", N.P. 435 w/ gearbanger shifter, twin stick'd dana 20, 2" BL, 5.5" wildhorses lift, and 35" km2's
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:05 pm |
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sbolt19
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Re: The "best" lockout hubs?
I should add that I had the lock ring spin the keeper off once and it trashed the entire outter hub & spindle. I am still using the original inner hubs, but I had to cut the outter hub off. I was told by a local expert that if it had been a Warn, I would have been in the market for a new set.
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:52 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: The "best" lockout hubs?
I have broken a stock one, so on went some warn premiums and haven't had trouble since. I wouldn't have gone warn if the deal wasn't so good, but I carry the last stock as a spare.
Of the aftermarkets - the word on the street is Warn's are probably the weakest. From there, I don't know.
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:13 am |
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Kinder
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Re: The "best" lockout hubs?
Running Warn premiums on mine, came the way from previous owner, so far no probs. Running a stock set on Willem's, again what was on the axle. My motto is run what you've got.
_________________ Best to Date MPG: 26.6
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Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:43 am |
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PaulW
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:53 am Posts: 14 Location: Durango CO
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Re: The "best" lockout hubs?
Trouble with stock is they are plastic and break very easily. The Warn premium are all metal and will take a beating. Also the warn use a larger rotation than stock which works like a switch. Its much easier to use the Warn for that positive feeling for lock and unlock. Paul
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Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:48 am |
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TIM
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Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:54 pm Posts: 41 Location: Denver
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Re: The "best" lockout hubs?
I don't know if warn premiums are the best but I broke a gear in one, mailed the broken gear to warn with a letter and they mailed me back a complete set. Their lifetime warranty is for real.
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Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:38 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: The "best" lockout hubs?
On my 79 I run warn premium and keep the stockers for spares. My 74 has stockers on it and will be doing the same.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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GB67
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Re: The "best" lockout hubs?
No one has mentioned it but keep in mind cost comparison and circumstances to the build or project that is being taken on to include predetermined fail safes that are supposed to break before another more serious or costly item, kind of like the purpose behind your home circuit breaker. Any breakage sucks however, lock out hubs are supposed to break before axle shafts (hubs are cheaper and easier to repair / replace vice axle shafts etc. Of course tire size, weight of vehicle, use, power train / drivetrain combos and set ups all contribute to when the failure will be likely. You see this all the time with most budget minded "average joe" enthusiast without deep pockets that modify in stages... you save up your hard earned money and the most common first upgrade for anyone is a lift and tires and you take that newly lifted vehicle with those big meats they always wanted on a stock Dana 30 front end and the owner "upgrades" the lockout hubs since it is not a very expense change and takes to the trail to push the limits and boom snaps that short side or outer axle shaft...which leads to an option debate about... (insert, well lets just say a lot).
So my 2 cents of opinion is it is not so much about a "best" lockout hub, but more about the combination of load limits matching the purpose and build. If that is correct then a stock or aftermarket part will likely perform in the same manner without failure and does not play much effect. It is probably the main reason those with the deep pockets overbuild with over beefy stuff which equals less failure.
_________________ 1967 Bronco Sport set up with... 1991 Mustang 5.0 EFI - NP435 - D20 - 4.88 D44 OX Lock - 4.86 Currie High 9 Detroit Lock - 4 wheel disc brakes - 37" M16 on 15 incher's
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