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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
Well id like to get as much flex as i can and supposedly those monster lifts are suppose to be pretty good..I'm running 36s right now and she squats dow on them pretty good guess ill install the lift first and see how its gonna look and feel and if I need more put the body lift in
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Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:14 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
Generally higher lifts don't flex as much simply because to gain that lift, more arch is put into the springs. The flatter the spring, the more they flex. If it's a lot of flex you want, you might consider 4-linking the rear. Or do a reverse radius arm setup. Not as easy as bolting on a set of leaf springs, but I fear you'd be very unhappy going with that much lift. Another thing to do is a shackle reversal. Oh and don't forget about those spring rockers from BC's. They give you great flex and 2"of lift.
Not to mention center of gravity. There is a big reason that low COG and big tires are so popular and same for high clearance fenders on our inferior counterparts (heeps). You get your rig up that high even if the springs flex well, you'll still feel unstable. The shackle will only allow that spring to compress and extend so far anyway.
Are you opposed to cutting your fenders out more? That's the direction I'd go... No more than 3-4" of suspension and 1-2 of body, especially on a rig that will see some technical wheeling.
J.D.
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crawlercreations
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
I have to agree with jesus on the height and flex issue. I am running 5.5 of suspension lift with no body lift at all and I clear 37s. They rub at full tuck but just a little. I have a A LOT of flex too. I 4 linked my rear to achieve lowish lift with tons of travel. If you look through my build thread you can get an idea of my suspension travel. My next set of tires is going to be 40s. I will not be lifting it any higher to put them on, in fact I may lower it an inch! It will still have more than enough suspension travel and a great center of gravity.
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Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:38 am |
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
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Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:17 pm |
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
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Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:30 pm |
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
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Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:39 pm |
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
Got a half cage
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Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:26 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
A properly setup 4-link will do just fine on the highway. I would imagine anything off the shelf has a lot of compromises built into it so that it can be put on any bronco. But if you do you own, and do all the math right, it should be better than a leaf spring.
Dual shocks are not necessary. Properly valved shocks are. I wouldn't waste your time. If you don't have them already, the F-250 shock towers work great and are cheap!
I'll admit, I don't know much about the springs are you talking about, but I'd certainly be asking for flex pictures of other broncos. A friend of mine and I took two leafs out of each side of his 5.5" leaf pack to get it to flex better. Don't recall who's springs they were, although WH does ring a bell
BTW your fenders are cut pretty good. You already have a fair bit of clearance. Maybe get the suspension you want, and flex it out and see if you have clearance for larger tires.
Bigger tires do perform better without a doubt. But how hardcore do you plan to get? I see you are doing body work so I assume you're not looking at denting up that nice sheetmetal anytime soon. 35's will do most of the trails around here without much chance of getting body damage. You'd need rocker guards.
On a budget, I think 3.5" flexy springs and 2" of body lift with longer radius arms are a great way to go. If you are looking for more flex in the rear, go with 1.5" springs and spring rockers from BC's.
In the end, it's your rig. You do with it what you want. But if you know what you want from your bronco in the end, we will do our best to get you there the best way possible.
The cage looks great!
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
Cool I appreciate the info think what ill do for now is istall this 2 inch body lift and see what the suspension that's on it will do..I got the bronco in the shop Sunday morning and getting the paint and body done only an 800 dollar job so it won't hurt to bad to beat it up today I ran up and got almost all my power steering goodies thanks to aka frankcastle u the man! I also got myself a back seat along with belt, front race seats with harnesses, a rear tire rack, winch bumper, and a pretty good set of 35 inch bfg muds, ordered up my brake booster, quarter guards, and im getting ready to yank the dana 44 with disc brakes out of my donor bronco and putting it in my 66.. looks like i might just get her done by mid july hopefully
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
Stopped in today to check on my bronco in the shop its looking good body work is almost done and the whole passenger side is primed and straight should be sprayed early next week then I can take it back home and start throwing parts at it Ill post some pics when I get it back Im pretty excited to see what it looks like with a nice paint job on it and no dents!
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Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:39 pm |
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Entourage
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
Thats exciting - seems like your project is moving along. Who is painting it and have you picked a color?
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
Making huge progress!! just went in saturday and looked at the bronco at the paint booth and the body works all done and its in primer just needs to be wet sanded and painted should be done in a day or so...really awesome feeling to see her all straight and looking good..Got all my parts in just waiting for the bronco to come home so i can get to work...I estimate it being on the road in hopefully 2 weeks..got a long list of things to do including Installing 2 inch body lift installing brake booster axle swap dana 44 with disc brakes installing power steering,rear quarter rock guards,fabing a rear bumper, building a prerunner for my winch bumper finish up on my roll cage , installing harnesses, front and rear seats, a new b@m star shifter,new rear shock brackets,and a new set of wheels..then fabing a light bar off the windshield frame..lets just say theres a little work to do but Im highly motivated!! Heres some pics of her in primer..and Ill keep posting pics of the progress
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Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:24 pm |
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cobshane
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
It's going to be one mean machine for sure!
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Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:23 pm |
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
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Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:53 pm |
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Entourage
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
Exciting that it is coming together so fast. I am really excited to see the color! Really nice work.
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socofn
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
Totalchaos, your progress is killing me. It looks GREAT, I am so jealous. I would like to know who did the body work and paint in La Junta. I am like you in that I am not looking for a perfect paint job just better that what I have. Good luck and congratulations. JP
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Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:06 pm |
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
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Jesus_man
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
Awesome! Boy, that's a long list of things to do, and I really hope you meet your goal of two weeks! Keep taking pictures, not only to share, but also for records and memories!
J.D.
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
Just got finished fabin up my bumper just took a stock bronco winch bumper and welded a prerunner on it..made it look alot better just need to sand it down and paint it now..then start the rear bumper
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
NICE bumper. JP
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totalchaos
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
started faben up the cage rear section anyway..think Ill throw a v in the very center back for more stability this is my first attempt at building anything on the cage so I hope it turns out good just have everything tacked into place at the moment and Ill have a friend do the real welding..does anyone have an idea on how high the harness bar needs to be behind the seat? mid back maybe?
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Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:46 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
Looks like a good start. The harness should be attached 1" below the top of your shoulder. That so that's where I'd put the center of the bar.
Might consider some bars overhead, but put a bend in them to gain headroom, but not so much you can't put the top on.
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totalchaos
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Entourage
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
Bumper and Cage turned out great! Keep the pics coming!
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
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Jesus_man
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totalchaos
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Re: 66 Bronco Project
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