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ZOSO
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Im not sure on points so maybe someone can answer but do you have a ballast resistor? Is it the correct resistance? You maybe getting too much voltage to the coil. Cause them to prematurely fail.
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74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:48 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Nope, no ballast resistor.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:04 pm |
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hockeydad4-22
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Or because it was trying to overcome the "bronco lean"...
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:07 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Oh man....I should have known the sh!t was coming;)
I just installed the new condenser....will fire it up when my boy wakes up from his nap.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:12 pm |
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Entourage
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Since Airbur's Bronco is sporting pimped-out paint, he now has 'Gansta Lean'.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:14 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Yea yea....I was thinking of installing hydraulics...but only on the rear corner so I could droop it and bounce it.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:23 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
It didn't help:( Still stumbles badly and tach is all over the place. I'm at a loss.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:07 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Try unplugging the tach. Maybe it's bad and it's affecting your ignition.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:29 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Just tried that. Doesn't seem to have affected it. Still stumbling. Checking timing again.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:13 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Bouncing Tach
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:17 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
ha......ha.......ha
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:45 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Oh nice new picture I have! Too bad it's not an animated GIF
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:13 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
THAT is EXACTLY what it looks like!! Nice work Master Admin Man:)
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:22 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Feel free to leave it there.....will be a constant reminder of what I need to fix:)
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:26 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Yeah, I agree. So you don't think the tach issue is related to the performance problems I'm having?
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:32 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
It does it anytime....even when parked revving. I'm a novice with a multimeter.....club project!
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:02 pm |
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cobshane
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Re: Bouncing Tach
I haven't all the way through this post, but with a timing light does the light up seem steady or does fluctuate all weird ? Look closely. Your making sure your adjust your dwell before adjusting timing,right.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:18 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
I did have some dead plug wires a while ago but got that fixed. That was causing issues with the timing light. I do notice that TDC fluctuates a bit when setting the timing. Seems to jump back and forth then pegs for a while then jumps around again. I don't have a dwell meter but have thought about getting one.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:42 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Not sure if related but I'm getting quite a lot of black sooty water out the tail pipes.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:44 pm |
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cobshane
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Tail pipe water is normal, but dwell meter isn't needed as long as you set point gap right. Make sure your tdc when you set point gap i think or when fully open point gap then set. And then set timing. How old is the distributor? Does the shaft have side play? That will mess things up! Points setup can't have any side play! Dwell meter! I'm too young to even say that word.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:17 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Dizzy is brand new dual point Mallory. I checked the points and they are dead on....I think the measurement is .027. No side play in the shaft.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:33 pm |
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cobshane
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:15 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
I'm an idiot with a meter....what are the connections to make at the coil?
Thanks.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:57 am |
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cobshane
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Re: Bouncing Tach
It's like checking a battery. One terminal is voltage and one ground. If you don't know which is what, it won't matter. It will show voltage negative if you hook up backwards.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:50 am |
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Booger
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Dead plug wires? Did you replace them all? How about looking at the cap and rotor to see if it has any carbon tracks between any terminals. Have you hooked up the timing light to each plug wire to see if the miss is related to one or all? Shine timing light on the fan to see it if is varying any. I still wouldn't rule out the distributor. Check the advance mechanism to make sure it's not hanging up. How old is the timing chain? Could it be that the chain is loose and causing a timing variation?
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:14 am |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Wires are new. I will check each with timing light today.
The motor is all original other than plugs, wires, dizzy, coil, air cleaner, rear seal, oil pump, and fuel pump.
Anyone know of a 1996 351w for sale cheap?:)
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:44 am |
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cobshane
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Fix it yet. Looks like you need to make it to a tech day.
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:45 pm |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
Not yet. Don't think it is reliable enough to get me to a tech day right now:(
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Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:46 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Re: Bouncing Tach
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Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:57 am |
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airbur
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Re: Bouncing Tach
So today I got a brand new tach....hooked it up using different connection points (other than the coil line)....exact same behavior. Tried different grounds, connected the red directly to the battery and still the same bouncing tach.
I'm really at a loss now. Makes me think the RPMs really are fluctuating that much, but it sure doesn't sound like it. It is worst when accelerating. When it's at idle, it doesn't move much.
Plug wires are all good and I checked each one with the timing light.
Help! :)
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