[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/viewtopic.php on line 1644: sizeof(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/viewtopic.php on line 1644: sizeof(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/viewtopic.php on line 1644: sizeof(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/viewtopic.php on line 1644: sizeof(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/viewtopic.php on line 1644: sizeof(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/viewtopic.php on line 1644: sizeof(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/viewtopic.php on line 1644: sizeof(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/viewtopic.php on line 1644: sizeof(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4794: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3855)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4796: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3855)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4797: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3855)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4798: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3855)
www.ColoradoClassicBroncos.com - View topic - Stopping rust in it's tracks ?
It is currently Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:47 am



Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
 Stopping rust in it's tracks ? 
Author Message
Official CCB Member
Official CCB Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm
Posts: 3980
Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
Post Stopping rust in it's tracks ?
I am having my engine bay sandblasted so I can give my 5.0 a nicely painted engine bay to perform in.

Meanwhile I have some mild rust that I need to deal with on a temporary basis (I plan to do a frame off in a couple of years when I will replace panels).

So, what is the best way to stop the rust in it's tracks (I know some will remain after the sandblasting) ?

I have heard of PoR15 but don't know if it can be painted over or ?

Thanks in advance guys !

_________________
1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.


Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:13 am
Profile
Official CCB Member
Official CCB Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm
Posts: 4074
Location: Gardnerville, NV
Post Re: Stopping rust in it's tracks ?
Most etch primers have a metal conditioner to convert rust & prevent new rust from forming. It may not be enough, but would probably last until you get to do more.

Also there are metal conditioners that you spray on, let sit, then rinse off with water. We are doing that to the 1972 Chevy p/u we are working on right now. I don't know the name of the product right now, but I'll check at work today & post up. After rinsing, just prime & paint.

The POR & Chassis Saver are thick and would be very tough to remove in the future. I don't think you can top coat them, but I'm not sure. Find the Chassis Saver stuff by Googling "magnetic paint" the manufacturer.

_________________
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe
74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges
72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)


Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:02 am
Profile
Post Re: Stopping rust in it's tracks ?
POR15 is good stuff. Just don't get it on your hands or garage floor. I used it in my engine bay and went over it with flat black spray paint after it flashed up.


Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:18 am
Official CCB Member
Official CCB Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm
Posts: 4074
Location: Gardnerville, NV
Post Re: Stopping rust in it's tracks ?
The metal conditioner we are using on the old Chevy is called Auto Tech "Rust Converter" its in a pump spray bottle.

There is also a Permatex aerosol called "Rust Treatment" or "Rust Converter" that works good. You don't have to rinse it with water but it has to sit for 24 hours before top coating.

These are both thin bodied, almost like water.

Chad

_________________
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe
74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges
72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)


Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:14 pm
Profile
Official CCB Member
Official CCB Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:21 pm
Posts: 117
Location: Montrose, Colorado
Post Re: Stopping rust in it's tracks ?
I love POR 15. Here's the theory behind it (as I've been told, anyhow):

Paint is typically porus to some extent, even clearcoat. Because it is porus, oxygen can get under it and help to spread rust. Rust requires oxygen to form. POR15 is supposed to be non-porus, keeping oxygen off of the metal (as I am told). If that's true, POR 15 should keep rust from getting worse IF it seals the rust completely. I can't really tell if POR 15 will ever peel or bubble when applied over rust, but can say it stops at least surface rust in its tracks. I use the stuff like crazy. It seems to be the next-best thing to sand blasting.

POR 15 sells an etching primer to use over it before painting. I have a hunch any good etching primer will work. Use their etching primer, then a primer-surfacer if needed, then sand and paint.

Of course, POR has a recommended system from bare metal all the way to piant. It becomes difficult to find the line between marketing and truth sometimes, so whatever you feel comfortable with. We once put bedliner over POR 15. It's not subject to UVs or extreme heat, but no problem yet. I occasionally paint over POR15 in very tiny patches on exterior parts. No problems yet.

One man's experience, anyway.


Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:29 pm
Profile
Official CCB Member
Official CCB Member

Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:36 pm
Posts: 779
Images: 0
Post Re: Stopping rust in it's tracks ?
POR15 was designed as a chassis coat paint for cover all of that rust. If that's what you are wanting to use it for then do not use anything else.

If your wanting to just clean up your fender wells until your ready to do a full tear down media blast, repair then paint. I would just shoot the area with some rustoleum.

I used a bit of por15 on my F100 and it came out sweet and still hasnt changed since day 1. They also make a floor repair system for rust pitted floors when the floor pans really do not need replaced. It also coats the metal to protect. There is also a fuel tank seal kit to clean the interior of the cell and coat. I also did some of that on my F100 but ran out so I need to finish the prep before final coat can be applied.


Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:11 pm
Profile
Official CCB Member
Official CCB Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm
Posts: 3980
Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
Post Re: Stopping rust in it's tracks ?
Myself, 76FordBronco, and Gregg took the front clip off today in order to get to the rust on the top flange of the inner fender on the driver side.

We had a heck of a time with the 5/16 x 18 screws that hold the fenders to the door post so Dr. Mike (76FordBronco) schooled us on how to surgically grind the heads off without screwing up the fender's mounting flange !

BIG THANKS to 76FordBronco & Gregg !

_________________
1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.


Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:46 pm
Profile
Official CCB Member
Official CCB Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:59 pm
Posts: 1940
Location: Witness Protection Program
Post Re: Stopping rust in it's tracks ?


Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:02 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 8 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 62 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron

33,036,219 Views Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by STSoftware for PTF.
Karma functions powered by Karma MOD © 2007, 2009 m157y