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Gunnibronco
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Right on, thanks. I'll go look at the one I've got, probably won't work, is my guess.
edit: looks pretty similar to the WH one, guess I'm going to have to do some reading.
Thanks
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Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:20 am |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Any rear sump 351W pan should work. Might be some differences in dipstick location. Just be sure to use the correct oil pickup tube with it.
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crawlercreations
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
The oil pan on my last bronco with the 351w was from an F-250 and it worked fine. It took a small dent from the pumpkin once when I jumped the bronco inadvertently but didn't affect it. I was lifted 3.5" with stock axles. You should be fine with the F-250 pan.
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Gunnibronco
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Sweet, good news.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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airbur
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Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Picked up the oil pan today at the Bronco Hut (their new shop is going to be sweet!). Brought it home and it didn't fit. Hit the windage tray, hit main studs, hit oil pump even! So I decided to make it work. I clearanced the studs and oil pump a bit and removed the windage tray. It would take some serious customization and fab work to get it to work with the stroke and pan. After coating everything with blue dye and borrowing some play dough from my son to check the oil pan pickup to oil pan clearance...everything fits!
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Booger
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
I am looking forward to hearing that thing roar.
_________________ Bob - Turning hydrocarbons into noise since 1970
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airbur
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
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Shawns Fords
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
That is going to be nice. Your thread keeps making me nervous about just doing my engine swap. "NOTHING FITS!!!!"
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airbur
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
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Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:30 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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airbur
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Haha....yep, I'd imagine it would Viper.
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ZOSO
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
I too had issues with a windage tray in my 460.
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airbur
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
So contemplating carbing this thing for a while...in the interest of $. What are the fuel delivery concerns going this way? Since I will not be running a mechanical fuel pump, can I run the oem tanks/pickups and use an external electric pump? Would I need to regulate the pressure at the carb? This is what I'm thinking.... http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CMB-03-0215/?rtype=10
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Shawns Fords
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
You can run a electric pump. I run a Holley Red on my 64 and I put a regulator up top with a pressure gauge for my own sanity. I also ran a carter electric pump on my 78 with no regulator. It finally gave out last summer and they didnt sell that pump anymore (its probably ten years old) and I replaced it with a Mr Gasket pump. I have no complaints about any of them. just make sure its for a carb. engine. This one is in the 78 F150 4x4 400M http://store.prestoliteperformance.com/ ... 42gph.htmlThis one is in the 64 F100 with a 460 http://www.holley.com/12-801-1.asp
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airbur
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
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airbur
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Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Im going to install an electric pump on the current system for the carb on the 302. Did you also run the mechanical pump at the same time? I bought an Airtex E8090. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATX-E8090Also, you need to wire these pumps up with a relay and switch correct?
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ZOSO
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Remove the mechanical pump. 30gph might be enough for the 302 but that 427 might be pushing it. Regulate it at 5.5-6psi at the carb.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Colorado75bronc
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Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Yes use a relay and a switch is a good idea if u want to be able to disable the truck, a lot of guys hide the switch under the dash as somewhat of a security fuel cut, other wise just run the relay signal off of a suitable ignition hot wire
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Shawns Fords
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Booger
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
One thing, if you use electric only remove the mechanical and install a block off plate. I didn't do that one my '83 Bronco and had a good sized oil leak when the diaphragm finally gave out after a few yrs. Also it sounds funny cause you could hear the pump as it pumped just air.
_________________ Bob - Turning hydrocarbons into noise since 1970
Spiritual owner of the now Zoso mobile (1974 Bronco Ranger - EFI 351W-4R70W-ARB front and rear-STC softtop- High Country hood-3 1/2" WH lift- Cross inboard rear shock mnt- Duffs bumpers- Warn 8274- 33's- Cheby disc conversion)
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airbur
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Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Yea.....I'm picking up parts today including the block plate:)
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rtreads
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Just a heads up with that oil pan... If you use a WH track bar riser bracket on the front axle, your track bar will "self clearance" the pan a little. It didn't cause me any issues, but it sounds like your tolerances are a lot tighter than mine.
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airbur
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Thanks for the info. No riser....only a drop bracket.
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Shawns Fords
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Is she done yet? I am probably as anxious as you are.
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airbur
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
No sir. Old drivetrain and fuel take are out and I'm slowly working at cleaning up the engine bay. Next will be the fuel system. After that I'll bite the bullet and get some heads.
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nvrstuk
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
What carb?
We're running qjets on three strokers up here... all run great...actually better than great. : )
Call Bruce, talk to him for a while and understand why this guy is so freakin' knowledgeable about q-jets. He taught me several things I didn't know about at all about them. Great guy.
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airbur
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Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Just a quick update.....302 and tranny have a new home down south. Bronco is status quo for now. Viper is tearing into T and J xfer cases I dropped off and building the best of both.
Plan has changed a bit and I'm thinking of pulling the body off the frame. Then getting the frame blasted and coated....and reassembling with the new 427 > Viper C4 & D20.
I'll update when that begins.
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nvrstuk
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Couldn't get enough punishment and frustration working on the stroker could ya??!! now you're gonna take on a year plus long project... good luck 'cause I know I couldn't stand not driving my rig for that long...keep the pics coming!!
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landshark
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
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hockeydad4-22
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Re: Airbur's 427W Build Thread
Oh boy - here it comes... another frame off "refresh" that will probably turn into an "every nut and bolt" frame off resto - mod.
Come on Eric - go ahead and stretch it too, I think that would be a great idea and we can help each other a ton (of course I am planning about the opposite power plant that you are but still)
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