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Eck
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Here we go again...
I don't even know how to begin... So I went to meet a buddy for a beer this afternoon and neglected to see a sign in the parking lot for Doll Hospital Parking Only (yes, you read that right.) My Bronco was towed and I was not too pleased. I promptly went to the tow lot (which was operating out of the pig pen back yard of a residence in Arvada) to pay 214 dollars to bail out the truck. As I begin to drive home, I notice the engine sounds a little off-- kind of a fast click-click-click-click-click. My oil pressure used to be at about 60 and now it has dropped between 0-10 (when I shut the vehicle off now, it doesn't drop any lower.) I managed to get it home and turn it off to check things out. I am now leaking antifreeze somewhere near the top half of the engine back by the rear passenger side. Their is a little pool of antifreeze on top of the lower intake by #3 fuel injector. I can't really see where it is coming from because their are EFI wires, heater hoses, fuel injectors, etc. in the way. I am desperately seeking some advice and "expert" opinions. I know--my luck is not holding up too well these days. I am honestly just about to the breaking point. I will be sitting back pounding while I eagerly wait for your opinions/thoughts/advice/offers to buy this bronco.
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:01 pm |
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horseplay
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Re: Here we go again...
With your history with the cam I hate to say you may have cam bearing issues. I'm sure you know the drip of checking the oil & filter for contamination. Pressure testing the cooling system to trace the source of the leak. I hope there's a different reason for the pressure lose. Good Luck will hope for simple solutions.
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Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:04 pm |
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horseplay
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Re: Here we go again...
I was thinking is it possible for your pick up sensor to shift enough to drop the oil pump drive but still be engaged to the cam. I haven't seen one of these how they are machined or if the shaft drive could strip. Haven't seen the set up just a thought.
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Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:13 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Here we go again...
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:18 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: Here we go again...
Just out of curiosity, was it towed on a rollback or a wrecker?
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:00 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Here we go again...
Front tires up. Back tires on the ground.
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:27 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Here we go again...
I hope this is an early April fools joke.
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Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:05 am |
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Eck
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Re: Here we go again...
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:09 am |
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Dirtheadz
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Re: Here we go again...
That sucks!!!! You maybe more deserving of my avatar.
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Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:33 am |
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B.O.B.
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Re: Here we go again...
Fingers crossed for you bro
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Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:16 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Re: Here we go again...
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:24 am |
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Eck
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Re: Here we go again...
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:25 am |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Here we go again...
Common practice with tow companies I see is to disconnect the driveshaft and tie it up.
A locked Bronco is pretty easy to get into though. Tow companies usually carry tools for that too.
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Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:32 pm |
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EFI Guy
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Re: Here we go again...
Wow, that's a bad day!
The clicking may have been a noisy top end from the lack of oil pressure. I'd pull the cam sensor first and inspect the gear, roll pin, and pump shaft. If all is good see if you can prime it with your drill. Just don't start it again unless you can get oil pressure.
I find that I always have to re-torque the lower intake bolts after a couple of heat cycles or they will start to leak. You might give it a shot and see if that cures it.
Fingers crossed for an easy fix, you deserve a break.
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Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:56 am |
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Eck
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Re: Here we go again...
So I tested the oil pressure by hand and was getting a solid 60 psi.
I pressure tested the coolant system and chased a couple leaks at hose clamps. Tightened down all the hose clamps and don't seem to get any more coolant leak.
However, the engine just doesn't sound right. It's not as smooth as it was before. I either need someone who has more experience in diagnostics to come by and take a listen or I need to take it to someone.
Any takers or advice on a place?
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:37 pm |
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EFI Guy
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Re: Here we go again...
I'd pull the valve covers and give it a good look over. I can probably swing by one night this week if I get off work at a decent time.
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Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:18 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Here we go again...
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:22 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Here we go again...
What's different in the way you tested oil pressure?
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Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:09 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Here we go again...
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:16 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Here we go again...
That sounds good. Might have had a loose sender wire or something simple. Got to track down the noise though. Maybe rockers hitting valve covers.
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Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:30 pm |
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Eck
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Here we go again...
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:16 pm |
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horseplay
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Re: Here we go again...
That would be great you deserve a break good luck.
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Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:55 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Here we go again...
Man, I hope that's your issue. Itd be nice to have an easy fix.
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Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:08 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Here we go again...
The scratches look more like wire brush marks. The baffle looks like it took some rocker hits though. Might try a felpro 1645 gasket. They're 5/16" thick.
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Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:16 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Here we go again...
Yah, I've got the blue rubber reusable ones right now which are 3/16. Maybe the extra 1/8 will help clear any issues.
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:36 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Here we go again...
You could also just wack it with a hammer.
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Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:46 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Here we go again...
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:48 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:52 pm |
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Eck
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Re: Here we go again...
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:58 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Here we go again...
Ima say that's definitely rocker contact on those baffles. Those gaskets look nice but they're just too thin for those valve covers.
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Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:34 pm |
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