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Justin
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:04 am Posts: 6198 Images: 0 Location: Lakewood
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Rear disc brakes
I'm kicking around swapping in some Explorer rear discs since it sounds like they're the only swap that has a decent E-brake. I'm also aware that they're set up for the medium bearing rear ends. How hard is it to accurately expand the holes for my big bearing ends?
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Sat May 23, 2015 8:25 am |
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phyler
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Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:41 pm Posts: 1201 Location: Erie
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Re: Rear disc brakes
Justin, if you do these, I'd love to help/watch. I have all the parts in my garage to do this. Granted, my Bronco has the right rear end for it to be a bolt on. I've heard I might need a spacer though.
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Sat May 23, 2015 9:05 am |
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Justin
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Re: Rear disc brakes
Can do! Good thoughts, anything else I might need for this?
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Sat May 23, 2015 9:06 am |
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sykanr0ng
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Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:46 am Posts: 405 Location: Greeley, CO
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Re: Rear disc brakes
I've seen billet steel "Torino" bearing ends on eBay for $60
Been wondering if changing them would be better than oval shaped holes or welding and drilling or .....
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Sat May 23, 2015 10:56 am |
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Justin
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Re: Rear disc brakes
The challenge with those is that you need an alignment bar to install them correctly. The long term dream is to build a 9"/14 bolt full float hybrid, so if it isn't easy I'll just stick with drums.
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Sat May 23, 2015 11:06 am |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: Rear disc brakes
I'd say you could just "key hole" the existing bolt holes and you should be good.
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Sat May 23, 2015 12:57 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Rear disc brakes
How close do the tolerances need to be.?
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Sat May 23, 2015 1:02 pm |
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phyler
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Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:41 pm Posts: 1201 Location: Erie
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Re: Rear disc brakes
Justin, if needed, I can loan you a backing plate so you can see what it might need.
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Sat May 23, 2015 2:10 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Rear disc brakes
I think the lack of enough axle brake offset is going to be the bigger challenge.
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Mon May 25, 2015 8:50 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Rear disc brakes
So do the brakes need to go out or are longer axles needed?
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Mon May 25, 2015 10:52 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Rear disc brakes
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Tue May 26, 2015 12:04 am |
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Justin
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Re: Rear disc brakes
I'm using an axle out of a 77 F150. How much longer do the axles need to be over stock?
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Tue May 26, 2015 8:21 am |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Rear disc brakes
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Tue May 26, 2015 10:20 am |
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Justin
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Re: Rear disc brakes
As measured from the axle end to WMS?
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Tue May 26, 2015 10:28 am |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Rear disc brakes
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Tue May 26, 2015 10:56 am |
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Justin
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Re: Rear disc brakes
OK, I ate lunch at home and popped a drum off to measure. Looks like you're right. I'm seeing a hair more than 2 3/8 from the backing plate to the face of the axle. If I move forward with this, it looks like all I'll need to do is figure out whether my existing e-brake cables will work and open up the mounting holes. How precisely do those holes need to be cut? It seems like a paper template could be used to mark it and a die grinder used to carefully expand the existing holes.
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Tue May 26, 2015 12:40 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Rear disc brakes
Use a bearing retainer for your template. You could even tack an old bearing to it to keep it centered.
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Tue May 26, 2015 1:37 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Rear disc brakes
That's a darn good idea. Thanks!
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Tue May 26, 2015 2:00 pm |
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sykanr0ng
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Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:46 am Posts: 405 Location: Greeley, CO
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Re: Rear disc brakes
Over on CB there was a thread about the possibility of 2004-2007 E-150 van rear disc brakes being workable.
Would need at least 16" wheels. Rotors already 5 on 5.5 Bigger diameter so maybe better parking brake?
Food for thought for the junkyard spotters?
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Thu May 28, 2015 6:37 am |
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BroncoCrawler
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Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:21 am Posts: 90 Location: Wheat Ridge, CO
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Re: Rear disc brakes
Opening the center of a backing plate is pretty easy. I did it on my girlfriends TJ when I put grand Cherokee disks on her jeep. Of course I used a Bridgeport with a boring head. (My dad has one)I'd be happy to take a crack at this since for you but unfortunately it would have to be after June 23rd when I return from my Rubicon trip. I'm in panic mode trying to get everything ready currently.
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Fri May 29, 2015 8:34 am |
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plumbdoctor
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Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:17 pm Posts: 568 Images: 0 Location: Golden
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Re: Rear disc brakes
I just keyholes the holes , center of backing plate was fine, I used explorer parking brake cables. One thing to keep in mind is to clearance the center hole of the rotor, and the axle end. Mine machined 1/16th so they would fit inside the rotors.
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