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69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
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Eck
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:13 pm |
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Eck
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
Finally got all the parts to mount up my fire extinguisher.
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:26 pm |
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Justin
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
Sweet! Doesn't get more accessible than that. What extinguisher did you end up buying?
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Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:05 pm |
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Eck
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:03 am |
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Eck
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:54 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
What shocks are you running, or planning to run with your Lars Bars? The Lars Bars will help mellow out the ride. Also , did you air down your tires? I make a run to Wheeler Gelogical sometimes, its 13 miles of bumpy road, each way, airing down made a world of difference.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:20 pm |
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Justin
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
x2 on airing down if you didn't. What springs and shocks are you running?
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Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:35 pm |
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Eck
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
I'm not really sure what the springs are or the rear shocks. Front shocks are Rancho RS5000. FYI- the springs were originally red if that helps in identifying. I didn't air down and that's a great suggestion. I currently don't have an air-up solution but will as soon as I go ARB. I haven't put much thought or research to moving to anything different when I switch axles and ad Lars Bars. Open to suggestions.
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:46 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
High quality shocks front and rear. With the Lars Bars you will have more front travel available, and if you want to relocate the upper shock mount you could really maximize the available travel. Bilstein 7100 (external reservoir)& 5100 seem to be very highly recommended. I did 7100 in front & 5100 in rear, different lengths & valving can be ordered depending on your rig/preferences. Perfect time to swap is when you do the Lars Bars.
Your front springs are probably Rancho?, not known as a soft spring. New front springs, WH or Deaver from Jeff's.
Rear springs look like old 6 leaf packs. I'd switch them (I had a set for 15 years). Again, WH or Jeffs, or BCBs too.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Gunnibronco
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
Basically, tear it all apart, and start over. You can talk to the voices in my head, when I'm not. I think they are the same voices in Justin's head.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:33 pm |
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Eck
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
Thanks Chad. I like that you had a second post that was basically, "on second thought, tear it all down and start over. Everybody's doing it." I probably need to start game planning as this adds a little more complexity to the situation. 2 axle swaps, Lars bars, new shocks and springs, new ZF5, new transfer case all this fall/winter.
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:43 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:57 pm |
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Eck
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:02 pm |
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Justin
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
Dude, the voices are so, so real. I suspect you've got Rancho coils up front as well. That's what were on my truck when I got it, and a swap to a used set of Duff progressives made a huge difference. Some 11 leaf springs in the rear will help as well. I've got a set of 5 or 6 leaf Softride springs in the rear of mine and they actually ride pretty well, but the 11 leafs are supposed to be better. Mine'll be up for sale at some point when I link my rig. The other thing I'd consider (that has been mentioned) is a new set of shocks. I'll second Chad's vote for Bilstein 5100 or 7100s. The 5100s are a great way to get a very good shock for a reasonable price. The 7100s are awesome if you want to be able to tune them or decide you want reservoirs. To run either you'll need different shock mounts, but the older F-250 mounts are very good and really cheap (I think $30 each?). http://classicbroncos.com/f250shockmounts.shtml They're also 4.5" longer, and will give you as much travel as you'll use running any trail on the front range.
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Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:59 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Justin
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
Sweet, even better! Oh, and air down, it makes a massive difference and it won't hurt anything to drive a short distance to a gas station to air up. Just don't take any fast corners.
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Digger
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
Airing down will definitely help.
Judging by the photo, the coil springs look older and thick, which would lead me to believe they are fairly stiff on a lighter rig like your. Also, my experience with Rancho RS5000's is that they work fine at low speeds, but any high velocity movements are jarring due to their linear valving.
I would start by figuring out what the front coil rate is (it could be done in about 30 minutes with careful measuring) and adjust if necessary. Then buy some good shocks like Bilsteins.
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Jesus_man
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
Nice pics! Yeah, that ride is rough up there!
As with others, airing down will make a huge difference on the trail. I'd go down to about 12 for starters and see where that puts you. Looks like you have real beadlocks, so you're safe to go down to about 6 with those.
But just find the nearest air pump on the way out and keep speeds low!
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Eck
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Eck
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
Bought new leaf springs, coil springs and rear Bilstein 5100 shocks today from WH. Was on the phone with Paul for probably an hour figuring things out. What great customer service! Anyways, still waiting to purchase the front Bilstein 5100 shocks because we weren't real sure which ones to go with to maximize travel using what I am planning to go with.
I will have 3.5" lift, extended radius arms, F250 shock towers. Anyone by chance have an idea of which front shocks to go with or even better, running a similar setup?
For guys using the F250 shock towers, did you mount them in the same location as the stock towers?
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:27 pm |
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Justin
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
The F250 towers are usually done as a direct swap for the stock ones. For the fronts shocks, I'd get it all assembled then run the suspension through its travel. You can also measure how much room you have between the upper and lower eyes currently, add a couple of inches for the taller towers, and then figure from there. My guess is that you'll need a 10" regular shock or a 12" short body 7100. Shoot for roughly 40% uptravel and 60% droop.
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Gunnibronco
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
Justin is right. The best way is to get everything set up, including bumpstops. Pull the coils and cycle the suspension and measure. It's worth waiting to buy the right ones, don't get a set then try to fit them.
I went with 14" 7100's, in front, but had to do a lot to get them to fit (moved uppers through the inner fenders, and lowers down on my Bloody Knuckle arms). I have around a 3.5" lift, but am running a 5.5" coil, so with the long arms I have lots of axle drop available.
I'm changing my uppers now. I'm doing the F250 towers, but will be spacing them out & up to fit.
Digger's thread has pics of a nice, simple way to get a little extra height out of an F250 shock mount.
I'd do what you can to get as long a shock as you can use.
I forget, do you have a body lift? It will get you a little extra room to get a taller shock.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Eck
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
Bronco making its tailgating debut today!
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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phyler
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
Very nice! I know that spot well. Go Buffs! Hopefully they can start to right the ship today.
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Eck
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
Installed the new LED headlights today. I think I still need to do a little tweaking of the angle as I'm getting a little bit of VV spots. They are definitely a big improvement. The head on look you can really tell how much of the driveway is lit up. Before: After: Before: After:
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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ZOSO
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
looks good.
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Justin
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
X2. That's a big difference. Rob, thanks for coordinating this. I might need to order some if he does another group buy.
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Eck
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Eck
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Re: 69 Dudes-- Just the beginning
I went out to try to figure out my ZF clutch master cylinder rod to pedal situation and got a little carried away... No more Dana 30!
_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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