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almost everything just died
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Stubborn3
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Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:09 am Posts: 174 Location: Denver/Leadville, Coloradical
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almost everything just died
So im at the 7-11 with the kids and the truck starts then dies as I'm backing out. Now it wont start, no headlights no functioning gauges, turning the key makes no noise... nothing. The aux fan and fuel pumps do work but I think they go right to the battery. Everything seems hooked up and connected. Any thoughts on what quit? solenoid or maybe a switch, ignition or similar??
_________________ '72 sport, 351 Cleveland, NP435, twin-sticked 20, unknown lift- if any, 35" KM2s siped by B.O.B, custom rust and dents, 2 kid seats.
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Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:33 pm |
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Justin
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Re: almost everything just died
I'm terrible with electricity, but my first thought is that you may have gotten a short somewhere and cooked your fusible link. It's a sacrificial piece of wire where your main wiring harness connects to your battery. Ignore this if you're not running a stock harness.
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Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:46 pm |
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Stubborn3
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Re: almost everything just died
I have no idea if the wiring is original but its my feeling that it is. So how does one find fix/replace this fusible link. There is additional stuff going on as far as radio fuel pump etc so while its easier than a new car, im not an electricity dude either
_________________ '72 sport, 351 Cleveland, NP435, twin-sticked 20, unknown lift- if any, 35" KM2s siped by B.O.B, custom rust and dents, 2 kid seats.
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Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:56 pm |
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Stubborn3
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Re: almost everything just died
After googling fusible link I still cant see one for sure. There is what looks like a black wire that has been soldered to a yellow one with an inline fuse? It comes off the starter solenoid but appears to be intact with fuse still good
_________________ '72 sport, 351 Cleveland, NP435, twin-sticked 20, unknown lift- if any, 35" KM2s siped by B.O.B, custom rust and dents, 2 kid seats.
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Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:46 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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almost everything just died
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:11 pm |
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Kinder
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Re: almost everything just died
Outcome?
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Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:20 pm |
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akaFrankCastle
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Re: almost everything just died
0 volts at the ignition post on the solenoid with key in run position. Trouble shooting from there.
_________________ Stroppe'd 1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One 1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:46 pm |
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Digger
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Re: almost everything just died
I had something similar happen with a 280Z. Ended up being a bad battery cable. Looked okay, but couldn't carry current.
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
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Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:53 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:36 am |
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Stubborn3
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Re: almost everything just died
going to replace the wire to the number 3 post and may do a new starter solenoid and battery cables for good measure and see where we stand. Bought a new fusible link but dont see anything similar currently on here. so until I get a moment to swap this stuff out i'm grounded
_________________ '72 sport, 351 Cleveland, NP435, twin-sticked 20, unknown lift- if any, 35" KM2s siped by B.O.B, custom rust and dents, 2 kid seats.
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:23 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: almost everything just died
The fusible link will be the first 8" of the 10g black wire on the battery side of the starter solenoid. You have to unwrap it a little to find the end of it.
Also '73?-'75 had a connector at the passenger corner of the firewall (engine side) where both sides of the 10g wire loop passes through along with the green-red wire for the voltage regulator. This connector tends to fall apart.
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:17 pm |
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MOLLEY
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Re: almost everything just died
I had exactly the same thing happen , I ended up running new 10 gauge wire to fuse box w 40 amp large fuse in line .. That was after I replaced a few other good parts w no luck and pulled out some hair . Hope that helps if you have not fixed it yet cheers
_________________ 66 Bronco (Molley) injected 418 stroker on juice, klune v ,4 speed atlas hi 9 35 spline air lockers front & rear, rcv axles. 37'' red krawlers. Four other sets of tires for ice racing and dirt drags. 290lbs of welding wire.
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Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:48 pm |
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Stubborn3
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Re: almost everything just died
I'm assuming this is the fusible link, it's been updated as suggested above and fuse is fine going to order some new post wires and hope that is it
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_________________ '72 sport, 351 Cleveland, NP435, twin-sticked 20, unknown lift- if any, 35" KM2s siped by B.O.B, custom rust and dents, 2 kid seats.
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Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:30 pm |
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Digger
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Re: almost everything just died
That yellow wire is too small for powering the whole truck.
Where does that thick blue wire go to? Is that for an accessory?
ETA:
Where does this wire go? It looks more factory. (Yellow Arrow)
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_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
Average 23.5 mpg, Best tank: 25.1 mpg
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Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:00 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: almost everything just died
I agree, too small and too new. Now that one that's painted blue and wrapped in tape looks about right.
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Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:47 am |
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Stubborn3
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Re: almost everything just died
The yellow wire in loom comes off the battery, turns red and looks dash light or radio related. Thicker blue wire looks stereo related as well leading into a "street wires" plastic encased fuse.
_________________ '72 sport, 351 Cleveland, NP435, twin-sticked 20, unknown lift- if any, 35" KM2s siped by B.O.B, custom rust and dents, 2 kid seats.
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Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:58 pm |
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Stubborn3
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Re: almost everything just died
Running out of ideas
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_________________ '72 sport, 351 Cleveland, NP435, twin-sticked 20, unknown lift- if any, 35" KM2s siped by B.O.B, custom rust and dents, 2 kid seats.
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Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:01 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: almost everything just died
I don't know if this is any help, but the cap on the fuse pictured above has cracked & isn't holding on tight. I had one similar, that did the same thing. Despite being broken, it maintained a circuit and didn't cause a problem.
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:35 pm |
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Digger
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Re: almost everything just died
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
Average 23.5 mpg, Best tank: 25.1 mpg
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Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:41 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:47 am |
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Stubborn3
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Re: almost everything just died
seems stock with a fair amount of ghetto fixes. After un wrapping a lot of tape it looks like the thin red wire is connected to a thicker bluish wire and a smaller yellow one off the solenoid. need a bigger connector but I think thats it so hopefully this thread will die soon. Thanks for all the help.
_________________ '72 sport, 351 Cleveland, NP435, twin-sticked 20, unknown lift- if any, 35" KM2s siped by B.O.B, custom rust and dents, 2 kid seats.
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Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:44 pm |
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Stubborn3
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Re: almost everything just died
and it's fixed...ghetto fusible link has been replaced, maybe i'll make it to a breakfast now
_________________ '72 sport, 351 Cleveland, NP435, twin-sticked 20, unknown lift- if any, 35" KM2s siped by B.O.B, custom rust and dents, 2 kid seats.
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Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:03 pm |
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Justin
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Re: almost everything just died
Sweet!
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Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:41 pm |
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