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horseplay
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Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 408 Location: Grand Junction CO
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ZF 5 speed
So just taking an opinion pole. So for those of you that have the ZF do you think it was worth changing out your C4 or NP 435. Tell me what you think & what engine you are running.
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Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:35 pm |
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Justin
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:04 am Posts: 6198 Images: 0 Location: Lakewood
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Re: ZF 5 speed
Haven't done it yet, but have a ZF on my garage floor waiting to replace my NP435. Looking forward to having an overdrive gear.
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Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:41 pm |
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phyler
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Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:41 pm Posts: 1201 Location: Erie
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Re: ZF 5 speed
What Justin said. Not sure if it's truly worth it yet but I came by the transmission pretty cheap.
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_________________ 1975 Ranger Edition that I've had longer than I've been without it.
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Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:44 pm |
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Digger
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Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:53 pm Posts: 1276
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Re: ZF 5 speed
Absolutely worth it!
Switched from NP435 to ZF5 behind a 351W.
I can comfortably cruise at 75 MPH @2500 rpm and the 351 can still pull the hills without a problem. Additionally, the hydraulic clutch is more reliable than the old link setup.
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
Average 23.5 mpg, Best tank: 25.1 mpg
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Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:21 pm |
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horseplay
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Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 408 Location: Grand Junction CO
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Re: ZF 5 speed
That's what I was wondering. How much did your low range rock crawling change?
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:08 am |
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horseplay
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Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 408 Location: Grand Junction CO
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Re: ZF 5 speed
Forgot what tire size & gear ratio are running?
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:09 am |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: ZF 5 speed
I had an NP435 in my old bronco with the original and VERY tired 302. I had 3.50's and 33's at the time. The NP435 was the only way I could crawl at a reasonable cost. That bronco is gone, but new one has a ZF5, 4.10's and 35's with a 351 EFI. As Digger said, it will cruise on the Interstate pretty easily. Mine is more of a trail rig and not so comfortable on the road, but...on smoother roads I have looked down to find myself going 70 without noticing.
IMO - the ZF5 is the best way to go for us who prefer the manual tranny! It offers a decent granny gear, and a great OD. If you need deep crawling gears, the best place for those is in the T-case. The axle ratios should match your highway cruising/tire size selection.
Just make sure you buy a quality master cylinder, not a chain parts store version. Perhaps a tranny rebuild shop is the best source.
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:30 am |
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Digger
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Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:53 pm Posts: 1276
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Re: ZF 5 speed
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
Average 23.5 mpg, Best tank: 25.1 mpg
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:45 pm |
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horseplay
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Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 408 Location: Grand Junction CO
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Re: ZF 5 speed
Thanks guys that's the info I was hoping for some real world experience.
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:10 pm |
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landshark
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Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 3942 Location: Denver, Wash Park Area
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Re: ZF 5 speed
Had a np435 switched to zf. Was definitely worth all the trouble I went through. Low range differences are hardly noticeable.
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:35 pm |
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pgilbeau
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Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:06 pm Posts: 639 Location: Falcon, CO
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Re: ZF 5 speed
I really like the ZF-5 in my Bronco, it is much better than the C-4 that I had. My set up is 37's, 4.88 gears, 3.8:1 Atlas, and a 302. I can cruise 70-75 mph on the highway with no problems and then put it in low range and crawl. On my trip to Moab mostly used 2nd to crawl, 1st can crawl up about anything but doesn't have enough wheel speed when you need it.
_________________ 1969 Bronco: Full widths, 3 linked front end, 37's, hydro-boost, 4x4x2 box, ZF5, Atlas t-case, and fuel injected 302
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