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crawlercreations
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Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle and $$$$$$ build
I have officially started building my new front axle. I'm sure many of you know what this is already but for those that don't; this is a hybrid axle built with a ford 9" center section and Dana 60 axle shafts, inner Cs(where the ball joints attach to the housing) and Dana 60 knuckles, spindles and hubs.
I am using a spidertrax pro 9" housing with chromoly center section and heat treated tubes. I have Cs and knuckles from a '96 Dana 60. The knuckles have been machined, drilled and tapped for high steer arms. They came with 1 high steer arm and I have metal coming to build the second arm. I've installed new ball joints in them and have all new bearings and seals. I want to re use my current wheels and tires for the time being so I've machined down the o.d. of the huge Dana 60 hubs and redrilled them to the correct lug pattern. I'll be adding a ton of pictures so this will be several posts long.
Housing as I bought it. It was mis cut so I got it really cheap. 20160928_105602.jpg
The axle Cs.
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Some of the machine work on the Dana 60 hubs.
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More machine work on the hubs.
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Axle shaft comparisons between chromoly Dana 44 shafts and the new Dana 60 chromoly shafts.
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Last edited by crawlercreations on Thu May 24, 2018 8:38 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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crawlercreations
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
Along with building this 60-9 I'll be building a fabricated housing 35 spline rear axle, extending the wheelbase, 3 or 4 linking the front, changing the rear 4 link and installing coilovers front and rear. A bit of a big change. Later on I'll be getting an atlas transfer case and 40s. More of the goodies. 20171115_100432.jpg Second housing. Black Friday deal. 20171128_102024.jpg Yukon hardcore hubs. Really low profile and the strongest you can get without going drive slugs. 20171217_133538.jpg New wheels for the eventual 40s. 20171218_083251.jpg Rebuilt fox hydro bumps. Got them cheap. 20171218_132028.jpg I started getting a little at this point. Decided to really build it once and right. True hi9. 20180105_135530.jpg Full hydro steering with upgraded ram and Artec ram mount. 20180108_172400.jpg Wilwood brake calipers and cross drilled and slotted rotors for fun. These calipers fit the Chevy conversion brakes if anyone is looking to upgrade their brakes. Bolt on deal. 20180118_154707.jpg
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crawlercreations
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
Currie 35 spline rear axle shafts.
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Fox coilovers. 14" for the front and 16" for the rear.
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Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:27 pm |
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crawlercreations
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
Now that most of the goodies are accounted for I can actually post a little of the work I've started on.
Housing cut to the right width.
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Internally sleeved and welded up where it was cut before I purchased it.
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And the Cs attached.
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I've only gone a single pass on the C welding. I'll give it another pass tomorrow and weld up the ends as well. The rest is basically assembling it so I can get the ram in position and weld the ram mount on. I'll be attaching the lower link mounts as well before I start installing it in my Bronco.
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
Wow. That's going to be a helluva setup. Wanna see this out playing in the rocks again.
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
That is going to be awesome !
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
Man that some collection of parts! I will be following this thread
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Dirtheadz
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
NICE!!!!
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ScottBarnes
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
Oh man -- what a great thread!! anxious to see it progress!
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:18 am |
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Kinder
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Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
Sub’d, very cool upgrade! Can you send me the shop info that did the machine work on the D60 Cs & hubs, I need some similar work done.
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:14 am |
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crawlercreations
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
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Kinder
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
Gotcha, thanks.
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Jesus_man
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
Man! So much awesome!!
What caster angle are you running? This is on my bucket list! I wish I could be your apprentice thru this process!
Did you have to modify the wheels to fit over the D60 hubs or was all the machining on the hubs?
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crawlercreations
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
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crawlercreations
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
I didn't have much time to work on it today. Got the Cs fully welded and the ram mount fit. I think the ram mount is rotated a little high but that's an easy adjustment.
Welded Cs.
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Ram mount initial fit up.
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Kinder
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
Did you do any pre-heating of the cast iron parts? A lot of fab and welding sites discuss it, but I’m not sure of the circumstances were it’s beneficial.
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crawlercreations
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
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crawlercreations
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
Not a lot to update. It is close to done and ready to install. The ram mount is in positon and fully welded up. Ram is test fit and tie rods are built. I'll fully assemble the axle on the bench and see about putting on the lower link mounts now or when I install it. I'm really happy with how it's turning out.
Second high steer/ double sheer arm built
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Front view with ram installed
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Penetration
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Fully welded and braced
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Jesus_man
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
More awesomeness!
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crawlercreations
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
It is assembled! One little thing needs attention that I'll address but otherwise it was as expected and assembled just like any other front axle. Now I'm really anxious to get it installed!
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Who doesn't like penetration?? 20180129_100228.jpg
Brakes 20180129_100243.jpg
Back view 20180129_100251.jpg
Wide view 20180129_100437.jpg
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
All I have to say is.....beefy.
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Jesus_man
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
What about a birds eye view? Do you already have a hydraulic supply? Envious for sure. This is what I've wanted to do for a long time.
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Kinder
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
It looks great, I like the double shear mounting on the ram to knuckles.
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crawlercreations
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
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crawlercreations
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Jesus_man
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
Your ram alignment front to back is great. But sounds like you need a little up and down. I've seen less aligned stuff work just fine.
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crawlercreations
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
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Kinder
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
What do you think the full setup weighs?
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crawlercreations
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crawlercreations
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Re: Crawlercreations 60-9 front axle build thread
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