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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Saggy stance
Installed a WH 3.5” suspension years ago, probably 2010. WH front springs are known to settle a fair bit during first year, which mine did, so I installed 4.5” springs up front.
Now, a couple years later, the rear seems to be settling / sagging and I️ don’t like the stance.
ANy input on what to expect if I were to get new 3.5” springs ?
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:03 pm |
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Dirtheadz
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Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:27 pm Posts: 929 Location: Colorad Springs
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Re: Saggy stance
I'm a fan of Prerunner sag (ofcaorse I'm odd X desert guy). Could always do a thin add-a-leaf... just a thought
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:12 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Saggy stance
Add more weight to the front. Mine has finally settled out after sitting nose low for years.
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:34 pm |
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horseplay
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Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 408 Location: Grand Junction CO
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Re: Saggy stance
you could have your springs re-arched @ Denver spring.
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:31 pm |
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BroncoCrawler
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Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:21 am Posts: 90 Location: Wheat Ridge, CO
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Re: Saggy stance
To be honest I would not have your springs re-arched. I worked at Denver spring for a year and saw the process they use. The re-arch rarley lasts especially if your gonna wheel it and stress the springs. They will probably offer to add a leaf also but it most likely will be one big thick leaf and ride rougher and hurt articulation.
When I redid my springs two years ago. I ordered 2" fronts and 3.5" rears...... Now with all my tools. New rear bumper, high lift, spare, full 24gal fuel I sag a 1/2". Wish I would of bought 4.5" rears. These are deavers from Jeff's.
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Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:10 am |
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horseplay
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Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 408 Location: Grand Junction CO
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Re: Saggy stance
good to know that it seems to be a short term solution.
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Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:13 am |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Saggy stance
Mine did that as well. I ended up ordering a new set of 11-leafs from Tom's. Now it's level. I think wheeling is just hard on them all.
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Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:21 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Re: Saggy stance
Do you think it will continue to sag worse?
What is the measurement between the rear axle & frame?
Will you loose important wheel clearance in the front if you drop to a shorter front spring, to match the existing rear lift?
Get a damn winch!
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Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:40 pm |
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mickphatmac
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Re: Saggy stance
....I'm interested in your Old Saggys!
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:51 am |
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landshark
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Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 3942 Location: Denver, Wash Park Area
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Re: Saggy stance
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:21 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Saggy stance
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:31 pm |
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Eck
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Joined: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:33 pm Posts: 2460
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Re: Saggy stance
Maybe you could hang some truck nuts off the front bumper to help your saggy problem.
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:27 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Saggy stance
Well, got a helluva good deal on a Warn winch at 4WP sale this week end.
Also, while working on the rear end this week end i found that the axle shim on the driver’s side had rotated such that it was almost perpendicular to the leaf springs. Pounded it back in line which should help a little.
We’ll see what the winch does.
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:02 pm |
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landshark
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Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 3942 Location: Denver, Wash Park Area
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Re: Saggy stance
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:22 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Saggy stance
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:18 am |
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hockeydad4-22
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Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:11 pm Posts: 2378 Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
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Re: Saggy stance
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Both of my son's favorite torque setting as well...
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Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:13 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Saggy stance
Well, I think I found the real culprit.
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_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:32 pm |
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landshark
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Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 3942 Location: Denver, Wash Park Area
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Re: Saggy stance
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:20 pm |
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sykanr0ng
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Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:46 am Posts: 405 Location: Greeley, CO
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Re: Saggy stance
Heavy Duty Boomerang styled rear spring shackles.
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Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:30 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Saggy stance
I'll bet that was making a little racket!
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Saggy stance
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:00 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Saggy stance
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:02 am |
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