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Gregg
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Burned up my winch.
A old friend called me up to winch out some of their fitzer bushes. I winched out two while they chainsawed the roots. On the last one the winch gave up.
Smittybilt xrc8 (8000lb). I swapped in a new solenoid for the easy fix but nothing changed. I pulled the winch from its hiding spot for access and tested the motor without the solenoid or switch and nothing. Figured it's the motor. My question is...can the motor be fixed? If so, by who? Im not really up for buying a new winch.
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Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:14 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Re: Burned up my winch.
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Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:47 pm |
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Gregg
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Re: Burned up my winch.
No. Cheapest direct fit motor is $200. A new complete smittybilt 9500lb winch is $300....
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Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:09 pm |
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71 Broncman
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Re: Burned up my winch.
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Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:36 pm |
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B.O.B.
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Re: Burned up my winch.
Or I have a warn XD 9000i for sale and will be at the swap meet on saturday
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Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:01 pm |
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Digger
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Re: Burned up my winch.
Got pics of the inside of the motor?
If the comm or the brushes burned up or pitted, moght be fixable.
I can true up the comm if the brushes are useable.
Is that a PM or series wound motor?
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Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:02 pm |
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Gregg
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Re: Burned up my winch.
It's a series wound motor. I pulled of the motor casing and it was clear that the problem was one of the brushes separated from the wire and somehow the wire separated from the wire to the other brush.
I thought to take it to an electric motor repair and see if they can replace and / or reattach the brush(es).
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:47 pm |
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cravenbronco
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Re: Burned up my winch.
Possibly JC electric can fix it up for you.
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Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:17 am |
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Justin
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Re: Burned up my winch.
Seems like the manufacturer ought to be able to sell a replacement part?
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Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:28 am |
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Gregg
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Re: Burned up my winch.
Found a part number and ordered a new brush assembly. $17 from Amazon. Tested the motor and it works. I wonder how many motors are tossed w/o knowing it could be as simple as a brush replacement. Now do I keep the new solenoid for a spare or send it back?
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:52 am |
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Gregg
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Re: Burned up my winch.
I spoke too soon. I burned up the replacement brush in the same spot. It seems to get really hot fast and then slows way down. I've checked all the connections and they looked good.
However, right after I put the new brush assembly in and tested it, it was running fine so I put the old solenoid back in (because I thought it was only the motor) and the old solenoid got really hot and then the motor slowed way down. I put the new solenoid back in and it also got hot and the winch was super slow. Is it possible the old solenoid cooked the new brushes?
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:29 pm |
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Digger
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Re: Burned up my winch.
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ZOSO
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Re: Burned up my winch.
Or just pull the winch for parts and buy another at 300 bucks....
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Gregg
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Re: Burned up my winch.
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:32 pm |
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Digger
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Re: Burned up my winch.
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:13 pm |
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Gregg
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Re: Burned up my winch.
nope.
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:47 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Re: Burned up my winch.
A handheld meter won't be accurate enough to tell you if you have a shorted winding.
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Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:47 am |
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Gregg
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Re: Burned up my winch.
My handheld meter is anything but short.
I salvaged pieces from both burned brush assemblies to make one last effort. I payed special attn to the wires on the brushes to be covered by the loom. It looked like they shorted out on the assembly last time. I tested the motor w/o solenoid and it worked again and then again with the (new) solenoid and it worked. I spooled out about 25 ft and then spooled it in w/o any load and it seemed fine. Nothing got hot and it lasted the whole duration (10 min). I kept the idle higher too. I'm leaving town for a couple weeks and when I get back I'll find a tree and test the winch with the Bronco in neutral. If it fries again I'll take Zoso's advice.
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