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braided hose & an fittings for power steering
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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braided hose & an fittings for power steering
This is an FYI for anyone considering making your own power steering hoses with braided hose & an fittings.
I saw a post on FB where someone made their hoses from Summit 8an braided stainless PTFE hose and steel an fittings. His line blew out 3x before the post. Turns out this type of line is not adequate for the pressure and heat of a hydraulic system. It can be used for return side though.
I wrote anfittingsdirect.com for the specs on their hoses, since I've built my own lines with their products. Well it turns out they don't recommend it. I've included their response below.
I don't know why I thought I should use this stuff. But I guess I'll go to a hydraulic shop and have some made. I have some fairly expensive templates for them to copy.
Live and learn.
"Thank you for your inquiry. Please see the information below, provided directly from the website:
Pressure Rating: 800 PSI - note: crimp-on fittings are recommended for applications over 500 PSI.
Vacuum Rating: 265 inHg.
Temperature Rating: -100F to 500F
Regards,
Joseph Covely Customer Service"
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:50 pm |
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Viperwolf1
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Joined: Tue May 07, 2013 10:37 pm Posts: 1485
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Re: braided hose & an fittings for power steering
Look at the specs for aeroquip teflon hose. This is the difference between good hose and cheap China hose.
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Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:14 pm |
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Digger
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Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:53 pm Posts: 1276
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Re: braided hose & an fittings for power steering
Gunni - I have been using Aeroquip FC300 hose and fittings for power steering and hydroboost. A quick search turned up these specs from EATON's website: Cover Material Polyester Braid Dash Size 8 Hose Family SAE R5 Max Temperature (F) 302 Min Temperature (F) -55 Operating Pressure (PSI) 2000 Product Line Aeroquip Tube Material AQP Agency Listings: Government Specification DOT/FMVSS 106 Type All, DNV, USCG/MMT Agency Listings: Industry Specification SAE 100R5, SAE J1019, SAE J1402, ABS Burst Pressure (psi) 8000 Color Blue Description Single wire braid General Application Hydraulics handling petroleum base fluids and air, gasoline, fuel and lubricating oils, fire resistant hydraulic fluids and other industrial fluids Hose Base Number FC300 After a few years of use, I pulled the hoses while I install the R2.8 engine. They are in fantastic condition.
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
Average 23.5 mpg, Best tank: 25.1 mpg
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Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:48 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: braided hose & an fittings for power steering
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:54 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: braided hose & an fittings for power steering
I don't recall what I have, but I know I sourced it from a hydraulic shop somewhere near 2008 and it hasn't given me any trouble. I have a small piece that I can look at to see if it's got any info on it. It's not a pretty blue tho!
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:29 am |
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Digger
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Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:53 pm Posts: 1276
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Re: braided hose & an fittings for power steering
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
Average 23.5 mpg, Best tank: 25.1 mpg
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:48 am |
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Strike2
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:34 am Posts: 808
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Re: braided hose & an fittings for power steering
For my hydro-boost lines I'm using the following 6an components, and so far there holding up. I just completed a 250 mile shake down run hitting up 5 trails just above Lyons. According to the specification they are rated for power steering, I'm wonder if the FB folks install and prepped the ferrules/hoses correctly?? Thanks for the post it just reminded me to make/carry a spare an hose with fittings. https://www.summitracing.com/search?Sor ... ord=632610https://www.summitracing.com/search?Sor ... ord=620421
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:56 am |
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landshark
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Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 3942 Location: Denver, Wash Park Area
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Re: braided hose & an fittings for power steering
I have also used the Aeroquip lines and fittings above (all -6an) and haven't had any issues with any of my power steering setups in the four that i have made lines for. Two of those were hydroboost as well.
I have reused some of the fittings even a few times in a pinch but prefer to use new when I can. I have had a leak or two but that was my fault and the way I inserted the fitting into the line. It was an easy fix to clean up the hose and re install the fitting.
_________________ 1976 Bronco "Green, Yellow, whatever", 1969 Bronco "Red", 1972 Bronco Stocker "Kind of Blue/Grayish"
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:42 am |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: braided hose & an fittings for power steering
Great info thanks for the insight.
From what I've read the hose & fittings must be the same brand and can't be mixed and matched. So I need to scrap what I have and buy all new fittings and hose from one source. Correct?
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:50 am |
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Strike2
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:34 am Posts: 808
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Re: braided hose & an fittings for power steering
I purchased all mine from summit, and when you pull up the type of S/S hose your going to use and scroll to the specification there should be a tab or note somewhere that say what ends are recommended.
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:58 am |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: braided hose & an fittings for power steering
fwiw I am running the anfittingsdirect ptfe hose and have for a few years with zero issue. I run it for fuel/ps/trans you name it. My buddy is doing the same with his jeep with no issues.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:16 pm |
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Digger
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Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:53 pm Posts: 1276
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Re: braided hose & an fittings for power steering
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
Average 23.5 mpg, Best tank: 25.1 mpg
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:34 pm |
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Gunnibronco
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:07 pm Posts: 4074 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Re: braided hose & an fittings for power steering
Thanks for all the info!
_________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – Claire Wolfe 74-AWB 98", ZF5, Atlas4, TGW HP1060 and HP1014 axles, ARBs, 37's, 3.5" lift-5.5" front coil springs, Tahoe rear springs, EFI 302, h-boost, York OBA, 4x4x2, custom dash & gauges 72 U15- Explorer Sport-Candyapple Red (1 of 141)
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