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Eck
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Joined: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:33 pm Posts: 2460
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
I’ve had mine in for a couple of years. One of the guys on our trip that races down there and runs a steering shop said it’s a “common” failure and knew exactly where the leak was when I was getting oil coming through the solenoid.
I too would be interested to find out what they say about the upgrade.
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_________________ 69 Wagon, 351W, Explorer EFI & Serpentine, ZF5, 35" tires, 3.5 SL, 2 BL, WARN 8274
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Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:43 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
The part we made for the ARB RD99 locker was an engagement collar. We stopped making it as ARB upgrade the collar to a stronger version. I am not aware of an upgrade seal kit but wish you luck in your search.
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_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:56 pm |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Thanks for following up, I guess we’ll continue to fix as necessary.
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Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:55 pm |
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horseplay
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Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 408 Location: Grand Junction CO
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
This situation is very common it can be caused by interference from the adjuster lock. The lock often needs to be machined so that the air supply collar fits freely. Most of the time it's the alignment not the seals. I believe ARB provided an action update for this.
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Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:18 pm |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:53 am |
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horseplay
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Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 408 Location: Grand Junction CO
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
I'm not sure when I get settled into my new shop here in Grand Junction I'll see if I can find out.
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:31 pm |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
A little solar power for the Bronco camper. We struggled this fall when hunting to keep the lights on so it was time for an upgrade.
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Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:32 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
A good solar setup goes a long ways. Dad has 2 145watt panels on his camper. A good charge controller and we dont ever need to run the generator.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:32 pm |
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BroncoRaider
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Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:47 am Posts: 531 Location: Stapleton
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Diesel and solar? Talk about playing both sides! BSD-rolling coal while saving the planet
_________________ “Buddy” - 1975 Bronco Sport, 302/Viperbuilt 4R70W/D20, Explorer EFI, More Patina than Paint...
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Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:52 pm |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
The solar is up and running, but I need to sort out the battery storage options. I’ve got a old 100ah AGM in at the moment but it’s too old to keep up with the loads I’d like to run. I can afford to buy a new AGM(s) to get to 200ah or save up some money and go Lithium. The newer battery tech is nice, but the price point hurts.
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Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:05 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Go 2 6volt golf cart batteries. The capacity is insane with them.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:44 am |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:29 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
they are smaller in width but taller than say a 27series battery. Would be worth while to figure out how to make room for them.
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:24 pm |
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ZOSO
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Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:58 pm Posts: 3906 Location: Henderson, Co
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Dad also has one of these. It monitors how many amps are being pulled or charged. Also measures amphours. It's a very good way of keeping track of the batteries. He has the TM-2030-A http://www.bogartengineering.com/produc ... trics.html
_________________ Rob
74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:31 pm |
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Kinder
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Black Smoke Donkey
Well... this is going to slow down my upgrade. The passenger tube is bent, about 15mm or 1/2 inch towards the topside of the axle. It did come out of a farm truck, but I’d like to know what they were doing to bend a D60 tube. Maybe the kids went for a joy ride and jumped it. Anyway, any recommendations for a shop that could try to straighten it before I go the replacement route, maybe Crawlertech?
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:27 am |
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Rox Crusher
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Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm Posts: 3980 Location: Roxborough Park, Colorado
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
That sucks, I wouldn’t have thought to check that.
_________________ 1977 Sport, 351w OBDII EFI motor, 4R70W auto, 4:88 gears, ARB lockers, 3.5" suspension, 33" tires.
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:09 am |
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Kinder
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Black Smoke Donkey
Update, Crawlertech is closed for business, Josh replied to my email and said bring it to the Flopshop where he and Jon can sort it out.
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:26 pm |
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Jesus_man
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:36 am Posts: 5984 Location: California
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Thanks for update. Crawltech would have been my suggestion so it's sad to hear they are closed but good to hear he is still in the business!
_________________ 1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow. http://www.ucora.org
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:07 pm |
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Strike2
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:34 am Posts: 808
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
I would have also never thought to check straightness on D60 , I've seen some work that the Flopshop has done on a truck in the neighborhood and looks great, also sorry to hear about Crawlertech so has Josh teamed up with the Flopshop?
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:57 am |
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Kinder
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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 4371 Images: 0 Location: Parker, CO
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Black Smoke Donkey
Talked with Jon at The Flop Shop today, I’m going to try and drop the axle off this week. I’m glad to hear the positive words about the shop. Josh said he is leaving Colorado, so I think he’s just doing work at The Flop Shop until he leaves
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:46 pm |
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Digger
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Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:53 pm Posts: 1276
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
That's bad, but fixable.
My old boss and I straighten out a JK rear HD44 in Moab after some enthusiastic product testing (think Dukes of Hazard). It was bent bad, but we straighten basically perfect with a bottle jack and transport chain. After double-checking it on the alignment machine at work, the axle is still running 6 years later.
You can bend or unbend one side more than the other by moving the jack around. The JK axle wasn't bent symmetrically and after getting it close, we had to move the jack to affect the passenger side more than drivers.
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_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
Average 23.5 mpg, Best tank: 25.1 mpg
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:12 pm |
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Kinder
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
I actually thought about trying to straighten it myself. I was thinking an nice I-beam, my 20 ton hydraulic bottle jack, a nice 3/8 chain, my torch and maybe a small jig. But I have a promise to keep with the Camaro coming into the garage this week for a new clutch and the suspension work.
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:10 pm |
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Digger
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Fair enough.
FYI - It is very easy to bend an axle housing with a 20 ton jack. We nulled out a toe-in problem on a Toyota rear axle last year using the same method.
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
Average 23.5 mpg, Best tank: 25.1 mpg
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:06 pm |
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Justin
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Kirk, could you please let me know what you get quoted?
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:32 pm |
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Kinder
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Will do, I have a rough over the phone price now, but I hope to hear from Jon early next week after he’s had a chance to straighten it out.
I talked with him for a few, they have some cool builds happening at the shop. He really liked BSD, which was nice, it doesn’t make everyone happy, per the social media haters, ha!
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:31 pm |
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Kinder
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Housing is toast. I know it’s a long shot but if anyone has a lead on a 1978-1979 D60 housing or complete axle let me know.
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Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:59 pm |
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crawlercreations
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Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:36 pm Posts: 1101 Location: Arvada
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
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Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:11 pm |
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Kinder
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
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Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:21 pm |
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Digger
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
_________________ Cummins R2.8 diesel, ZF5, AtlasII, HP44/BB9, ARBs, coiled / linked suspension, 37" KO2s, full cage, bumpers, etc. Build Thread:
Average 23.5 mpg, Best tank: 25.1 mpg
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Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:12 pm |
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millerpz
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:03 pm Posts: 8
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
Does it need to be a 78-9? Car-part.com is showing a 1991 in Grand Junction. Pumpkin is offset more to the DS, so the shaft lengths are different.
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Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:29 pm |
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